RE: "The bible test" Answered.
December 18, 2013 at 10:39 am
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2013 at 11:11 am by Drich.)
(December 16, 2013 at 10:43 am)Ksa Wrote:(December 14, 2013 at 2:22 am)Drich Wrote: What happened to pretending to be a biblical scholar? Did someone tell you I am making you look like fool, and all you have left are questions about my penis?
Sorry sport, Mrs Drich gets to know if Mr. pee pee sports a picklehaube (it's a German word, look it up for the punch line)
Jesus Christ was circumcised when he was 8 days old. Why do you not follow Jesus Christ?
If God gets circumcised, it's the first thing I would do to myself if I really believed.
Wait so, in the Bible it says God said, let there be light. Did he utter the words with his mouth?
Oh, i forgot to ask How was church this past sunday?
(December 17, 2013 at 4:27 pm)ThomM Wrote: Sorry - Drich - but that is where YOU are a LIAR -Sorry -thommmmm..mm- This is where I get to show you, that your a (Insert personally insulting remark that shows a person in ablity to think for himself here.) The bible makes claims for any new potential believer, it takes a small amount of faith to take up and impliment said claims, the final result (the full fillment of those claims) makes what the bible says "True/Truth."
THERE is no truth given to anyone by a god in the bible - that is A belief
Quote:THe claim that it is truth - requires proof - and since the bible is the source - it would have to come from outside the bible - noting that the bible is NOT a reliable source - there are things in it that are NOT true.How do you know this is true? I just said the exact oppsite of what you said here. I followed the claims/promises the bible makes to every potential believer, and I found what the bible said I would find.
What have you done that makes you believe the bible to be not telling the truth? Take on faith that people who hold to be smarter than you made that claim for you about God? Can you not see the Irony here?
Quote:IF you doubt me - then to prove me wrong I request YOU eat a healthy serving of Oleander seeds or fruit - and then get back to me - since the bible says your god gave you all seed bearing plants for food.If you trutly want proof of God then follow the directions found in Luke 11 and do exactly what it says do. Rather than try and take God up on something He has promised to someone else.
Quote:IF your faith was so proper - you would admit it is. YOU faith is A belief that is NOT proven to be true - and therefore what you claim to be truths are just beliefs as well.My 'faith' (if you can call it faith anymore) is based on all that I have seen and experienced. God has taken an illerate god hating monster, and has given me wisdom, oppertunity, wealth and a life that is/was well beyond my ablities. I can't talk about everything now as there is still things in the works, but afterwards (maybe as soon as the spring Lord willing) I will be happy to share and even fly any established interactive fence sitter of this forum down to Orlando for a weekend to see what God has done for me. You can have Saturday to do whatever, but be ready to goto Chruch on sunday, afterward we will have lunch and a tour of what God has simply given me.
(December 17, 2013 at 4:45 pm)xpastor Wrote: Paul and "Luke" diverge on a number of details about Paul's ministry.
Luke says that right after his conversion by a heavenly vision Paul went first to Damascus and then directly to Jerusalem where he was introduced to the apostles. (Acts 9)
Paul himself says that right after his vision he did not see any who were apostles before him. He went first to Arabia, then to Damascus and finally after three years to Jerusalem where he met Peter and James. (Gal. 1)
Luke mentions a second journey to Jerusalem when Paul and Barnabas brought a collection taken up among the Gentile Christians to help the church at Jerusalem. (Acts 11) He then tells of a third meeting at Jerusalem to discuss the question if the Gentiles needed to be circumcised.
Paul describes a second visit to Jerusalem, 14 years after his first, to discuss this question. (Gal. 2)
Luke describes the Jerusalem leaders, especially Peter and James, as agreeing easily that the Gentiles do not need to be circumcised. (Acts 15)
Paul says that James sent emissaries to Antioch, who frightened Peter into refusing to eat with Gentile Christians "because he was afraid of those who were in favor of circumcising them" and Paul rebuked him (Gal. 2:12) According to Paul it was at this meeting that he was asked to remember "the needy" in the Jerusalem church.
Luke shows Paul taking a tolerant view of idol worship in the past:
Quote:Since we are God's children, we should not suppose that his nature is anything like an image of gold or silver or stone, shaped by human art and skill. God has overlooked the times when people did not know him, but now he commands all of them everywhere to turn away from their evil ways. (Acts 17:29-30)
However, writing in Romans 1 Paul takes a quite different view:
Quote:Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all! They know God, but they do not give him the honor that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness. They say they are wise, but they are fools; instead of worshiping the immortal God, they worship images made to look like mortals or birds or animals or reptiles. (Romans 20-23)
So we could conclude ...
A. that Luke did not listen very carefully to Paul, or
B. that Paul had developed Alzheimer's by the time he wrote Galatians, or
C. along with the majority of modern critical scholars we could conclude that Luke-Acts was written a few decades after Paul's ministry by an anonymous person who admired Paul but did not know Paul or his writings very well.
If "c" were true and Acts/luke was written decades later than why doesn't the book include the final imprisionment and death of Paul by the romans?
I thought you told someone you stopped responding to my posts... Could it be you only stop responding to what you can not answer, but will speak up when you think you have an ironclad arguement?

Would you like me to poke some holes in your iron clading to prove this point?