Alqaeda is a U.S., Saudi and Israeli backed organization.

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My Gosh but there is some utter nonsense being spoken.
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6) Western leftists.

Western leftists hate Israel mainly because Israel is an ally of the USA. When Israel was supported by the USSR they backed Israel. Western leftists pretend that Israel is amongst the worlds worst human rights abusers. Any rational inquiry demonstates that it isn't so. Western leftists will support any Anti Western Muslim group -even ones that hate each other. Oddly they donl;t support Socialists'left liberals in Muslim countries who otherwise beleive the same thiongs they do,

You're full of hog shit. I have no problem with Israel, and I am "western leftist." Your generalizations for something that is much more complicated than your bullshit dumbdowning would suggest. Nice job stereotyping.

AQ is not actually that interested in the US. The 9/11 attacks were meant to get the USA to attack Afghanistan and outrage the Muslim world and then attack Iraq and destablise it. The first was entirely successful. The second was a disaster because it enabled the people they really hate -shias to take over Iraq.

Riiiiiight, and Osama bin Laden denouncing the US establishment of bases in Saudi Arabia and calling for them to leave (even though they were, you know, attacking Iraqi forces and bombing Iraq and raiding Iraqi facilities from those bases), the establishment of whose bases already outraged the more radical muslim world, and oh you forgot a dozen other attacks they made against US interests or soldiers.

1992: Yemen Hotel Bombing; two hotels were US troops had been staying at were bombed by al-Qaeda terrorists.

1993: WTC bombing, 6 killed, a thousand wounded.

1994: Plot by al-Qaeda operatives to blow up several airplanes carrying US passengers over the Pacific; tested on Philippines Flight 434. Later plot foiled because of an apartment fire that resulted in the operation being exposed due to firefighters locating the explosive residue when investigating for cause of fire.

1995: Saudi National Guard Training Facility bombed, 5 Americans killed and 2 Indians killed.

1998: US Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tarzania. 200 killed.

1999-2000: Al-Qaeda plots to kill US tourists and Israeli tourists as well in Jordan foiled by Jordan's government. Plot to bomb LAX foiled at US-Canadian border. Plot to bomb USS The Sullivans foiled due to the boat that was supposed to get to the ship being overweighted with explosives and sinking. USS Cole bombed.

SO what were those, huh? Do tell me. Given that none of those were directed against the US in ways that would incite an invasion of Afghanistan to piss off muslims to make us attack Iraq-

Your entire idea is stupid and you should feel stupid for spewing this bullshit.

AQ and the US are NOT diametrically opposed.

Read above.

They were on the same side against Ghaddaffi (and then the salafis attacked the US at Benghazi) and the US and AQ are on the same side against Syria

No. No they were not, and are not, and you have nothing to back this up. Shut the fuck up with your stupid conspiracy theory bullshit, armchair warrior.

BUT I think there are a lot of people who think that the USA/UK are on the wrong side whioch is why they have pulled out of interaction in Syria.

They've never HAD interaction with Syria, you unbelievably stupid nutbag! Syria and the US have, at BEST, animosity, and they have for decades.

Contrary to shit being doled out by idiots the USA never supported the Taliban OR AQ. They supported Anti Taliban Mujahids.

So, we're supporting aQ, but we never supported aQ?

Your opinion is suffering from severe intellectual-bipolar disorder.

As I said before. The less someone knows, the more opinion they have. And you? You are FULL of opinions on this topic.

Learn. Read. Study. And get your head out of your ass.

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Imagine there was a country that decided to persecute Southern Baptists and that you lived there. Imagine further that they went off birth records so you're denials meant nothing. To them the fact that you were born Southern Baptist meant you were Southern Baptist and therefore to be persecuted.

Jews don't have to imagine that - it has happened. Judging by the politico-economic climate in parts of Europe, it may well be about to happen again.

"Why can't you just admit that you're not jewish? Why do you cling to the nonsense?"

Apparently its simply not my choice.

Get it now?

Jews were never the main target for persecution ever in history.

The nazis killed more than 20 million Russians, hated the Russians, wanted to invade Russia and "cleanse" that part of Slavic people, and conducted the largest invasion by far even today. 3 million german soldiers were used in the initial invasion of russia.

AT NO POINT WERE JEWS EVER ATTACKED ON THAT SCALE THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO THAT.

not to mention the Japanese hatred for and killing 20 million Chinese......again, Jews have never experienced such attacks and oppression.

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The same year they stopped funding other terrorist groups and joined the war on terror?

What's your point, man?

Hello Nora
What year was that? The west Including the U.S. A couple of years ago directly assisted self admitted Alqaeda affiliates in toppling and overthrowing gaddafi in Libya. NATO became the air force for the ground Alqaeda troops that became the much needed help for them to finish off the Libyan military.

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The U.S. Has been and is helping self admitted Alqaeda affiliates and radical Islamists that fight with these Alqaeda groups in Syria (this is failing miserably btw).

Hey man, how come you are addressing Nora, who posted after me, and not me, who tore up your argument and burned it in an inferno, hmm?

Second: Prove it. Put the fuck up or shut the fuck up. Your stupidity and baseless claims are starting to piss me off.

Another pussy-ass coward who can't stand to see his point destroyed. Hands in ears, la la la la, right? Pathetic.