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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(December 15, 2013 at 12:16 am)rasetsu Wrote:
(December 14, 2013 at 11:15 pm)snowtracks Wrote: the space-time theorems (authors ellis, hawking, penrose) which are an extension of general relativity conclude that space and time had a beginning 14 billions years ago.

Bullshit. Penrose's Conformal Cyclic Cosmology postulates that the universe need not have a beginning at all. Hawking postulates a singularity, whose causal origin cannot be known. And to the best of my knowledge of Ellis, he doesn't even address the problem in any tangible way. Now you're just making shit up and attributing it to famous physicists. Isn't it a sin in your universe to tell lies like this?


flawed analysis, but nice try though.

The Nature of Space and Time, Hawking stated, "Today virtually everyone agrees that the universe and time itself had a beginning at the Big Bang": ref - Hawking, S.W. and Penrose, R. 1996. The Nature of Space and Time, p. 20.
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book - The Large Scale Structure of Space-Time - hawking and ellis - "Einstein's General Theory of Relativity leads to two remarkable predictions: first, that the ultimate destiny of many massive stars is to undergo gravitational collapse and to disappear from view, leaving behind a 'black hole' in space; and secondly, that there will exist singularities in space-time itself. These singularities are places where space-time begins or ends, and the presently known laws of physics break down. They will occur inside black holes, and in the past are what might be construed as the beginning of the universe. To show how these predictions arise, the authors discuss the General Theory of Relativity in the large. Starting with a precise formulation of the theory and an account of the necessary background of differential geometry, the significance of space-time curvature is discussed and the global properties of a number of exact solutions of Einstein's field equations are examined". from - http://books.google.com/books/about/The_...gG_KI7Ll8C

(December 19, 2013 at 12:58 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: @Snowflake (as in precious little snowflake) - way to assert properties of entities who's existence is merely asserted, and not demonstrated.

Stuff that in your pipe and ponder why we aren't taking this bullshit seriously.
seriously, or not seriously doesn't matter.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer. - by snowtracks - December 19, 2013 at 1:55 am

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