Alqaeda is a U.S., Saudi and Israeli backed organization.

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Fact: Hitler didn't come to power on a platform of anti-Jewish ranting, the nazis and zionists were collaborators during and before the war. Zionism wasn't popular among Jews so they needed all the help they could get and the nazi government helped the zionists with their plans for establishing a Jewish state and plans for settling Jews in the Middle East. The Zionist and Jewish business block was necessary to rebuild German economy after the depression. In fact you can go back and look at news paper photos of articles from American zionist groups at the time agreeing not to boycott the German economy during this rebuilding. The Zionist Jewish economic block was instrumental in helping nazi Germany rebuild it's military and economy and getting hitler elected. Not to mention every other western nation collaborating with nazis before-during-after ww2.

Ever hear of the transfer agreement?

At no point in history was there a forced mass exodus of believers in Judaism from any land. If you have any evidence to counter this claim feel free to provide it.

Yes, anti-communism was a huge platform for nazis, it was so huge that everyone else slobbed on hitlers knob and let him remilitarize Germany in hopes that he would be able to strangle communism in Russia. This is after the west had troops in Russia ready to invade after ww1.........yet we are told that those evil Commies were the aggressors during the Cold War. Fucking please.

Pretty disingenuous aren't you.

Nice switching back and forth between Zionism and Judaism to try to confuse the point. Nice fiat declaration that Hitler didn't rise to power on a platform of anti-Jewish ranting - what - it was just a side-line?

Yes - in the beginning many people were impressed with Hitler - no-one knew what he would turn out to be. Support in the US for Germany, at the time, was actually remarkably high - in many sections of society, not just Zionists.

Further Hitler had made the proposal to set up a Jewish homeland (to get all the Jews out of Germany) initially. Had he stuck to that plan things would have been very different.

Now:

"At no point in history was there a forced mass exodus of believers in Judaism from any land. If you have any evidence to counter this claim feel free to provide it."

First off I note the clever use of wording so that I cannot include times where Jews merely fled persecution (say, from Pogroms in Russia). Nor could I include the forced expulsion from, say, the Warsaw Ghetto - not a land, huh?

By eliminating all these such mass fleeings you think your point is safe. Sadly Jewish history makes interesting reading - there's very little that hasn't happened.

So lets look at England, why not?

1290: Edward the first - Edict of Expulsion

On 18 July, 1290, Edward I issued what came to be called the Edict of Expulsion. The same day that the Edict was proclaimed writs were sent to the sheriifs of most counties advising that all Jews in their counties had until 1 November to leave the realm. Any Jews remaining after this date were liable to be seized and executed. To rub salt into the wound a special tax on the Jews was agreed in Parliament.

It wasn't until Cromwell that Jews were allowed back into the country.

So - proof provided I think.

As for the defence of communism - poor, poor Stalin. Old uncle Joe just never deserved the bad press did he.

Now it occurs to me that you might think the forced expulsion from England is the only example.

At the same time others I have responded to in this thread are apparently mystified as to why I feel forced to recognise my Jewish history. I'm going to make a new thread to deal with that.

Just for the record you might want to look up the expulsions from:

Spain - 1492
Lithuania - 1495
Germany - 1499
Netherlands - 1582
Poland - 1648
Russian - 1727

There are lots more of course - but all of that is for a new thread.

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I am surprised you can respond with such vinegar, generally when I see this sort of biased ranting I give up. It's blatantly obvious there is nothing you could say or do to convince him. It's ludicrous to think that the idea of religion exists in some sort of vacuum and doesn't effect cultural development, you could try to draw a comparison;

We are PCs and religion is the operating program like windows 2000, it is the software to our hardware :)

Also I hate the Jewish faith, the first thing they do to new members is go straight for the genitals to brand them. But even I can realise the amount of good works being done, the number of refugees and victims of the savagery (perpetrated by their neighbouring states) that have been given medical treatment is not something you could ignore and testament to their "software". Just as the barbarism of it's neighbours is testament to theirs. Here, let me know what you think of this. One of my favourites speakers on Israel.

Excellent video - thanks for that, and for the support.

Spain expelled all non Christians (Muslims included) and Christian factions that were not recognized as legit. This is hardly an anti-Jewish conspiracy or act when others that weren't Jewish suffered the same fate.

The same goes for the other "expulsions" you mentioned. It is purposely misleading to label the inquisition as an anti-Jewish program when Jews were not the sole victims or the main victims. That is like saying "since some of the victims of 9-11 were Asian then the perpetrators must have been anti-Asian". That is as stupid and misleading as your statements regarding so called anti-Jewish acts of nazis. In fact, showing sympathy for and pointing out that 20 million Russians were killed by nazis as well is somehow seen as anti-Semitic to some people.

Another example: some people killed in the invasion of Iraq were probably homosexuals. It would be stupid and misleading to conclude that the Iraq invasion was to kill gay Iraqis. 6 million Jews were killed (according to the guy who does the counting) and 20 million Russians were killed. It is completely stupid to conclude that the main or only reason for nazi aggression was to kill Jews.

And yes the nazis and Zionists collaborated before the war in an attempt to establish a land in Israel for Jews. It's called the transfer agreement. Jews and nazis swapped more cum than an L.A. Porn shoot.

IN ISRAEL there is a famous documentary about it, this doc was MADE BY AN ISRAELI and won several Israeli film awards. The Flat is the name of this documentary.