RE: "The bible test" Answered.
December 19, 2013 at 10:17 am
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2013 at 10:20 am by Drich.)
(December 19, 2013 at 8:53 am)Esquilax Wrote:(December 19, 2013 at 1:35 am)Drich Wrote: Do you know one of these people? Out of everyone that had made this claim not one actually performed all three steps as outlined by luke 11.
Nailed it! "You didn't do it right," despite the fact he couldn't possibly know what was actually done.
Quote:Sincerity is not the key. Following the instructions outlined in luke 11 is the key.
One suspects that the "seek" part of this little ditty requires sincerity. Which is really beside the point anyway, since what I was saying is that you'd foist the blame for failure on the person and never once consider the alternative possibilities, which you did perfectly.
I did not say sincerity was not apart of the equasion. i said sincerity was not the key. the key is knocking. Yes one has to be sincere, but in the story what gets the man in bed up and willing to give the neighbor what he wants? It was the man's persistant knocking. Something no one i have spoken with has done.
One has to be willing to knock until he gets what he/she is seeking. Every one of you who says he has A/S/K has put a time limit on their efforts. I have been intentionally A/S/K'ing for 20 years and I still knock for more. Most of you believe growing up in the church and doing church stuff is the same thing, so when you do honestly ask or seek for a week or two and get nothing you believe there is no God.
What if your unbelief was apart of the answer to your prayer? In that God has to wipe away all of the religious non biblical crap we clutter our hearts with and then rebuild solid biblically based theology in us so we can see hear and interact with Him.. But the thing is, inorder to get from religious christianity to biblical Christianity one must see how religious christianity fails, and it is only through knocking that we can build the structure that we need to get to God. Because knocking will take that sincere heart and deliver it to the stablity needed to hear and work with the holy Spirit.
But when you Ask and seek but do not knock you only get 1/2 of the prayer answered. Your false understanding of God is taken away but you do not rebuild
So again the Key to A/S/K is the knocking not one's sincerity
(December 19, 2013 at 10:03 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Well drich I followed the instructions of luke 11 before I was a atheist. I followed with sincerity and guess what I got? Nothing, I did it for months and got nothing. Intact I'm so confident in this result I challenge you to outline exactly what you think one must do and I will do it as openly as I can.
no you didn't, see the post above.
If you say you 'A/S/Ked' (past tense) you did not A/S/K as outlined by luke 11.
I have been A/S/King for 20+ years and will continue to do so the rest of my life.