"The bible test" Answered.

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Drich, Joseph Smith isn't my prophet; he's just the example used in my premise. I know he failed, and that's because he was obviously delusional. Whether or not he was seeking the Holy Ghost is not the issue;

Actually it is the Whole issue because A/S/K refers to Asking Seeking and Knocking for the Holy Spirit as Christ instructs us to do in Luke 11.

he presupposed god and Christ, which means he presupposed the Holy Ghost as well.

The mormons do believe in the Holy Spirit. So if joey wanted to include the H/S He would have.

In fact, he was probably expecting the answer to his question to be led in some form by the Holy Ghost, which is reasonable seeing as his family believed in the Bible and taught their children the principles and doctrines found within it.

No I have read articals on this specifically saying he got directions from the Father and the Son. They believe that the Father and Son were once people, who asended into ultimate authority and hold all power. The H/S is more of a messenger, an intity who carries out the will of the Father and Son. So by sighting the Father and Son Joey was claiming authority from the seat of power.

Who could have predicted that his mind would actually come up with a vision of god and Jesus?

He came up with the Father and Son because that was his understanding of how the God head works. which is contary to the bible.

Because of this we know He did not A/S/K as outlined in Luke 11 because He sought an audience with the Father and Son directly which is why He produced them, and not the Spirit.

Oh, so when you pray to invoke the H/S, do you pray to said Holy Ghost or do you petition your god for this guidance? Saying he was invoking the father and son is actually misrepresenting the entire story, but I see some bias on your part from preconceived notions that need to be cleared up.

You're getting your Joseph Smith timeline messed up a bit as well. It matters not what Mormons nowadays believe about god, but rather the Christian mind frames of J.S. Jr.'s family during the time that he asked god for guidance in the forest. Think about it; do you really think that 14 year old boy actually thought god was once a man at that point? Do you think he didn't share the same beliefs about gifts of the Holy Ghost that other Xtians at that time did? You are wrong in your assumptions about this premise, and that's no fault of your own. If you need me to clarify anything else about the pre-Mormon Church and how that applies to your A.S.K. model, then let me know.