RE: From atheism to Christianity? How so?
December 27, 2013 at 4:02 pm
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2013 at 4:08 pm by Ksa.)
(December 27, 2013 at 3:29 pm)agapelove Wrote: Colossians 1
16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
So, your interpretation that Jesus was in the mind of God doesn't fit the testimony of scripture, or even in its own context.
Energy is spirit. I mean to say it's not matter. Brother, if you quote Colossians 1 I will quote Ezekiel chapter 23...and start talking about donkey dicks, let's have an honest conversation instead: I care about what the MASTER said, Jesus, the prophet appointed to the nations by God, like Moses, like Jeremiah. What the Jews said it matters to me not, WHY? Because Jesus calls the Jews all kind of names, you wicked and adulterous generation, you fools...you SNAKES! So if I love Jesus I don't read what the Jews say because the Jews dissapointed the MASTER, I hear what the MASTER has to say.
Do you remember when Jesus told the Jews that he knew Abraham? Then the Jews went MAD saying how come you knew Abraham since you were not born before Abraham died? And Jesus again tells them, you're idiots! Before Abraham was, I AM! Meaning I was in the mind of God, I was with God, like Moses was with God, like agapelove from atheistforums was with God. So Jesus tells them, why are you so unreasonable to tell me I did not know Abraham just because he was born before me? God tells Jeremiah I KNEW YOU, before you entered your mother's womb.
And AGAIN the Jews misunderstood him! AGAIN! I AM was an expression used by God to say, I am whatever I am, not your business, just go do what I asked you to do. Imagine your boss walks into your office but you never saw him before so you ask him who are you? And your boss pissed off he tells you, I am whoever I am, not your business, take this box here and put it up there.
So Jesus said, it's not your business that I wasn't born before Abraham died, I am whatever I am I was in the mind of God in the form of energy and KNEW Abraham. And AGAIN they misunderstand him and pick up the stones to stone him! And you read what those Jews said about Jesus, Jews who couldn't hack onto his message!
You want me to read what the Jews said and believe like the Jews? I will not do that, I love Jesus I care about what Jesus said. That he was not God. What a jerk-off Jew says about Jesus, I couldn't care less, the Jews HATED Jesus and made all kinds of allegations against him, including that he pretended to be God. And Jesus told them YEE, ARE GODS. If God calls you Gods, the people onto whom the message of God came, then the prophets are called Gods in our language! The devil is the God of this world, and Moses was God onto pharaoh, and the Jews are all Gods.
So why would the Jews come find fault with Jesus when Jesus tells them he's the SON of God, when others are called GODS. The Bible has got sons by the TONS. Adam was son of God, Moses was son of God, anybody bound by the spirit of God was son of God. The Jews were looking for trouble! And when you're looking for trouble you don't have to go very far, you find it around the corner!
WHAT MAKES THIS MAN GOD? I want you to tell me you know, this puny little child who made his mother impure for 40 days and was circumcised when he was 8 days old, that he's Jehovah, that he's Allah, that he's God! A man who had a good appetite for food and wine. A man who had FOOD. Haven't we made our signs clear to you? That they both had FOOD. The implications of eating FOOD.
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