(December 27, 2013 at 10:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: I've experienced God, many times, of coarse you want ever believe so.
How do you know I won't ever believe? Aside from the fact that I don't find your arguments convincing now, what information about me do you have to make that assessment?
Quote:So, you're saying you will go to church with me and follow the instructions through scripture and my personal experiences to see the demonstrable evidence. Good I expect to see you in my church in a couple of weeks, will get started after the New year so you can have your last fling. This will be great can't wait to get started, please bring your Bible, it's you instruction and study book, homework is required, sorry that's part of the experience.
Oh, don't be childish. One of the premises of your religion is that anyone can come to Jesus, isn't it? Even assuming I accept any of this, I'd hardly need to come to your church to do it; you're just setting up a scenario you know I (being in another country) won't be able to fulfill, so you can crow about how unwilling I am. It's dishonest.
What I'm saying is that whatever led you to god is a set of actions that anyone could repeat, like going to a church, praying, etc etc. Like a science experiment; only I'd be quick to point out that those same actions tend to lead to different results, given how many different denominations of your religion there are, not to mention how many of us atheists were formerly a part of those.
And cue No True Scotsman from you...

Quote:Actually if I knew you were going to seek out the proof I have I would not have said that, I'm getting excited about this demonstration, how about you.
It depends on what you've got. If it's anything like a subjective demonstration, like prayer or religious personal experience, then of course we'll need to set up multiple tests, with a control group, you know, to weed out bias. Actually, multiple test groups would be better: we can get a group of christians, a group of atheists, a group of muslims and so on, and they can all take part in the demonstration you propose, and we can see just how many of them feel your specific god's influence when we do!
Now I'm excited!
Quote:Oh I'm going to show you so everyone else can see, we're going to have so much fun. Sunday School, Sunday morning Worship Service, Sunday night Worship Service, Wednesday mid-week Services and visitation every Thursday evening. Bible study every night and then prayer for an hour or so, then we can log-on to Atheist Forums.org and debate the unbelievers, yep, so much fun.
Assuming your proposed test produced statistically significant results across multiple test groups, sure!

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