Why would God?

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Oh I'm going to show you so everyone else can see, we're going to have so much fun. Sunday School, Sunday morning Worship Service, Sunday night Worship Service, Wednesday mid-week Services and visitation every Thursday evening. Bible study every night and then prayer for an hour or so, then we can log-on to Atheist Forums.org and debate the unbelievers, yep, so much fun.

Your path to the knowledge of god sounds a lot like brain washing.
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No one brainwashed me, the decision was all mine, the proof is all God's.

GC

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I've experienced God, many times, of coarse you want ever believe so.

How do you know I won't ever believe? Aside from the fact that I don't find your arguments convincing now, what information about me do you have to make that assessment?

I never said you wouldn't, nor have I ever said that to anyone here. I am praying that one day you will see God's truth. To make an assessment like that is far out of my ability.

So, you're saying you will go to church with me and follow the instructions through scripture and my personal experiences to see the demonstrable evidence. Good I expect to see you in my church in a couple of weeks, will get started after the New year so you can have your last fling. This will be great can't wait to get started, please bring your Bible, it's you instruction and study book, homework is required, sorry that's part of the experience.

Oh, don't be childish. One of the premises of your religion is that anyone can come to Jesus, isn't it? Even assuming I accept any of this, I'd hardly need to come to your church to do it; you're just setting up a scenario you know I (being in another country) won't be able to fulfill, so you can crow about how unwilling I am. It's dishonest.

I did not know you were in another country, I did not expect you would take me up on the offer even if you lived next to the church building. You asked for demonstrable evidence and I know of no other way to demonstrate it.

What I'm saying is that whatever led you to god is a set of actions that anyone could repeat, like going to a church, praying, etc etc. Like a science experiment; only I'd be quick to point out that those same actions tend to lead to different results, given how many different denominations of your religion there are, not to mention how many of us atheists were formerly a part of those.

Maybe, maybe not, God deals with each one in a way best for that person. Going to church and Bible study is a great start but, without a repentant heart in the end one want get there. The result is salvation, not what denomination one chooses, no denomination will save anyone, and those that might believe it would have not studied scripture, let lone read it. Being a part of something doesn't make you genuine.

And cue No True Scotsman from you...

Ah, your little pet rises from it's bed, to bad you need such a thing for a crutch. You do know that being born as a Scotsman, Irishman, Indian or anything else was not a decision you made nor can change. Being a Christian is something one chooses to be and there are certain things that become a part of ones life and if they are not there then one just isn't a Christian.

Actually if I knew you were going to seek out the proof I have I would not have said that, I'm getting excited about this demonstration, how about you.

It depends on what you've got. If it's anything like a subjective demonstration, like prayer or religious personal experience, then of course we'll need to set up multiple tests, with a control group, you know, to weed out bias. Actually, multiple test groups would be better: we can get a group of christians, a group of atheists, a group of muslims and so on, and they can all take part in the demonstration you propose, and we can see just how many of them feel your specific god's influence when we do!

Now I'm excited!

Me too, bring them with you. We'll be waiting with open arms and hearts.

Oh I'm going to show you so everyone else can see, we're going to have so much fun. Sunday School, Sunday morning Worship Service, Sunday night Worship Service, Wednesday mid-week Services and visitation every Thursday evening. Bible study every night and then prayer for an hour or so, then we can log-on to Atheist Forums.org and debate the unbelievers, yep, so much fun.

Assuming your proposed test produced statistically significant results across multiple test groups, sure!

As long as you bring an open heart and not a set of bias you will cling to.

GC