(December 28, 2013 at 12:55 pm)StoryBook Wrote:(December 27, 2013 at 10:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: No one is born with sin, we are all born with the nature to sin and we all have sinned. No, all sin are not equal, the more one sins and the greater sin one commits will result in one punishing themselves more than others will, all punishment is not equal.
Psalms 58:3
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies."
Doesn't this imply that people can be born with sin? Also since god created human doesn't that mean he is tempting us with sin?
First God says He does not tempt, with His power we would not be able to resist, that would be unfair. As for the passage you gave, do you even know what it means or who it's about and why. If you do not then why post things you have no understanding of, that particular verse can not stand alone, it needs the entire psalm to make sense.
GC Wrote:First thing you need to prove the angels are unhappy and are slaves. God will never take my free will from me, if I chose to I could reject Him at anytime.
SB Wrote:I can't prove fiction. I also can't keep track of all the changes to the story. My bad...God is god, and we are not god
If you believe it's fiction then you need to prove it's fiction and should before using it, that would only be fair, right.
GC Wrote:Doesn't work by chance, you will either spend eternity with God or in hell, hell will be plenty crowded, yet you will never see another person, you will hear there anguish in suffering though. God uses the description of fire and brimstone to describe hell because man could not understand what a terrible place hell would be like otherwise.
GC
SB Wrote:It does work by chance, I don't believe in heaven or hell. Anyway, why would god allow a horrible place to exist? He's all powerful, and its not very loving to send someone to hell for eternity because they didn't believe.
It doesn't matter whether you believe or not, not believing can't change what is.
God created such a place to punish the guilty, those guilty of sin. There has to be a balance in justice, a balance that most seem to reject and that's why many reject God. The balance is this, for those rewarded for repentance there must be punishment for those who do not. If only the reward were to be given and no punishment, then what meaning does the reward have.
God sends no one to hell, everyone who goes there has chosen to.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
