(December 31, 2013 at 1:50 pm)TudorGothicSerpent Wrote:(December 31, 2013 at 1:32 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: Other than that, huh? Are you asking a scientific/philosophical/or moral question? I see a conflict as I am a naive philosopher who relies on science, i.e. to answer the question of "good and evil," I would refer to evolutionary concerns...
It seems like a philosophical question to me. It's about whether or not we can perceive reality as it actually is without the interpretation of human faculties, which is a perennial question that authors like Immanuel Kant have been trying to tackle since the 18th century. There's definitely some crossover with science, though. I think that science has pretty much resolved it, at least as far as we can resolve questions in philosophy.
Yabut. I suck at formal philosophy. I cannot keep my science out of it, and as I understand it; well, it cannot be understood. I'm officially "agnostic" about reality.
"Humanity" is not a 'logical' position, it is an emotional one. What 'we are' is a 'sack of mostly water' trying to make sense of our environment and our place in it. And it is just that: I see 'us' as part of, and not seperate from, environment; yet the 'feel' I get from formal philosophy is that somehow we are 'above it all.'
I'm not 'above it,' I'm 'in it,' I'm all tao like that; and like Godel mentioned, no system is both complete and self-consistent, and I think that the 'incompleteness' here is in not being 'above it all.' Which is a perspective I fell we are currently unable to grasp.
