(December 31, 2013 at 3:15 pm)StoryBook Wrote: [quote='Godschild' pid='573489' dateline='1388487884']
SB Wrote:How did he reveal himself to you?(and saying from the book does not count). You see when I was really little I pretended god would talk to me, but nothing I "prayed" for happened. Then I grew out of the imaginary friend stage. All my 22 years of life god never revealed himself to me.
Wait a minute here, you're saying I can't use part of how God communicates with people, you really believe that's fair? What if I said you had to prove nuclear fusion to me but you could not use any text, kind of unfair wouldn't you say. God's conviction was through His word, through reading the scriptures God started working with me. I found myself seeing that I was in need of forgiveness of my sin and eventually committed myself to Jesus. This started my road to a relationship with God, as I grew in the relationship God continually showed me who He is, this came through experiencing the things God promises and through answered prayer and ect.
Pretending God talked to you is not being realistic and of coarse that's not unusual little kids and because of this your prayers were not sincere, so no answers. What were you praying for. Your first prayers should be asking God to reveal Himself to you and help you to see through His eyes. You think that just maybe you haven't been trying to hear God, and have you been asking God to reveal Himself to you, are you or have you ever seriously wanted to know God.
GC Wrote:
SB Wrote:Not to sound conceited, but I think I'm more forgiving then god. How could this eternal being just give up and condemn people just because they didn't believe. Aldo where is the cut off age for children? What about mentally disabled people?
The age is different for each some understand before others, as for the mentally handicapped that would be determined by severity and their ability to understand.
You really believe you're more forgiving, would you allow you son to die a death no on should have to suffer, would you allow him to give up all the advantages he had to be able to live a life he was completely a stranger to, a life of destitution and hardship, a life where most only wanted the physical things he could give them and not care about the forgiveness he was offering. Could you forgive these people for their treatment of your son, and that's just for starters.
GC Wrote:
SB Wrote:Not to be rude but "Our sin"(I know you mean man kind)? He allows an innocent child/or person to suffer because of "our sin". That's rather sad.I don't see anything perfect about it.
There is nothing perfect about life and God says because of the sin in the world that's the way it will be to the end of time, sin brought in the imperfection and until time runs it's course it will be with us. God has no choice but to let things happen, we have caused this not God, He however is going to make everything right.
Let's look at a suffering child, one who gave up His royalty to live as a suffering servant, who willingly died a death no one should suffer let lone One who was perfect in all ways. Why did He do this so, that one day in the future no one would have to suffer ever again and this comes through the acceptance of what He did for us.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.