RE: Why would God?
January 1, 2014 at 11:47 am
(This post was last modified: January 1, 2014 at 12:29 pm by StoryBook.)
(January 1, 2014 at 11:02 am)Godschild Wrote: @ StoryBook, I see you gave a kudos to a young kid who has no idea what being a Christian is all about, a kid who cares not to find truth, he's only interested in ridiculing Christians. If this is all you care about then why were we even having a conversation, by you not responding to my last post and letting someone else speak for you I take it your purpose is no different than his.Sorry to hurt your feelings,I just didn't have enough time to reply. I was just looking at the new post real quick...
GC
(December 31, 2013 at 7:04 am)Godschild Wrote:
[quote='SB']How did he reveal himself to you?(and saying from the book does not count). You see when I was really little I pretended god would talk to me, but nothing I "prayed" for happened. Then I grew out of the imaginary friend stage. All my 22 years of life god never revealed himself to me.
GC Wrote:Wait a minute here, you're saying I can't use part of how God communicates with people, you really believe that's fair? What if I said you had to prove nuclear fusion to me but you could not use any text, kind of unfair wouldn't you say. God's conviction was through His word, through reading the scriptures God started working with me. I found myself seeing that I was in need of forgiveness of my sin and eventually committed myself to Jesus. This started my road to a relationship with God, as I grew in the relationship God continually showed me who He is, this came through experiencing the things God promises and through answered prayer and ect.You can't use the book as an excuse for proof. That book is mistranslated. It all also been "revised" and their are many different versions of that one book. Then people changed it/misinterpret it to make it fit their views. Its used to scare people and make them think that someone is in control or their lives. It was written long before people figured out science, how the weather works, and that we are made of cells. There are lots of other gods and goddesses, and they where made because people had no other idea on why the weather change.
Pretending God talked to you is not being realistic and of coarse that's not unusual little kids and because of this your prayers were not sincere, so no answers. What were you praying for. Your first prayers should be asking God to reveal Himself to you and help you to see through His eyes. You think that just maybe you haven't been trying to hear God, and have you been asking God to reveal Himself to you, are you or have you ever seriously wanted to know God.
oh and yes when I was little I tried to speak to god and wanted to meet him. In the end he just turned out to be my imagination..
GC Wrote:The age is different for each some understand before others, as for the mentally handicapped that would be determined by severity and their ability to understand.Well all mighty god let it happen. No, I would not forgive them, but I also would not let spend eternity in pain of hell. You see your comparing me to one story, but my point is why would god let just innocent people suffer, and feel lots of pain. Just because there are a few "evil" people from 2000 years ago. Seems like we are already in eternal hell.
You really believe you're more forgiving, would you allow you son to die a death no on should have to suffer, would you allow him to give up all the advantages he had to be able to live a life he was completely a stranger to, a life of destitution and hardship, a life where most only wanted the physical things he could give them and not care about the forgiveness he was offering. Could you forgive these people for their treatment of your son, and that's just for starters.
GC Wrote:
SB Wrote:Not to be rude but "Our sin"(I know you mean man kind)? He allows an innocent child/or person to suffer because of "our sin". That's rather sad.I don't see anything perfect about it.
GC Wrote:There is nothing perfect about life and God says because of the sin in the world that's the way it will be to the end of time, sin brought in the imperfection and until time runs it's course it will be with us. God has no choice but to let things happen, we have caused this not God, He however is going to make everything right.
Let's look at a suffering child, one who gave up His royalty to live as a suffering servant, who willingly died a death no one should suffer let lone One who was perfect in all ways. Why did He do this so, that one day in the future no one would have to suffer ever again and this comes through the acceptance of what He did for us.
GC
Nothing perfect on gods perfect world he created. ok
So hes going to make everything right? How so?
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Now hold up, so god has the child suffering to show us that he is powerful and we are still full of sin? So This child that does not understand god, now has given up its free will and is enduring pain to prove a point to us?
Wow that is very disturbing of god.