(January 2, 2014 at 6:03 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:Well the, evolution debate has been effected a great deal by the media, and if it wasn't for the abilities of one Thomas Huxley in debate it could've been affected a good deal more. Now the way it is affecting the actual scientific work is like this. Until recently many scientists were afraid to publish work that could be interpreted as evidence against global warming, because as the climategate emails showed, it could turn colleagues against them and have them equivocated to holocaust deniers by the public. That has only begun to change.(January 2, 2014 at 5:23 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I wasn't ever referring to the IPCC covering up data per se. It how they originally achieved consensus. Just to be clear, I'm not saying global isn't happening or not man made, I haven't researched the science enough to make that decision. My concern as I mentioned before is that people with a agenda are pushing global warming, and I fear that with the way things often are in the media that it may not be possible to let the scientific method do its job.
uhm, ok. Because you said with climategate you couldn't trust IPCC, so I looked that up, that was an accusation that they covered up evidence.
Yea, it's abundantly clear that in the US people like to lie about climate change just like they do about evolution. It's no use implying science isn't science because you're not sure what is going on. So I think you should look it up. For you both scenarios are equally possible, so why should it be a problem that there are some of us who have made up our minds and say global warming is real?
Again with this exceptionalism when it comes to global warming. The media has never affected evolutionary science, has it? I don't understand the double standard, it just looks like conspiracy theorists' methods.
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To the last syllable of recorded time;
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Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.