(January 3, 2014 at 3:26 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:If gods intention is too save as many as he can, then wtf would he want with progressive revelation.(January 3, 2014 at 3:04 pm)Lemonvariable72 kodateline='1388775895' Wrote: Your taking that verse out of context. Jesus is saying how some will misinterpret signs of the end. Like Jesus on toast.
The misinterpretation of signs is attributed to having a faulty conception of the Kingdom of Heaven as time and place. Jesus was "in their midst" was he not? That reading also applies to the term "at hand" used in relation to the Kingdom of Heaven. To enter the Kingdom of Heaven means to repent and follow Christ.
(January 3, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Brakeman Wrote: .. mansion not existing in the clouds...Wherever the word mansion is used it refers to doctrines since these figuratively house our beliefs. "In the clouds" always means to be obscured by the surface or literal meaning of the text.
(January 3, 2014 at 3:23 pm)djkamilo Wrote: Not quite what Christians believed before the 17th centuryProgressive revelation allows God to reach us where we are. Theses hidden meanings were opened in 1757, so you almost got the year right.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.