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Why would God?
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RE: Why would God?
(January 4, 2014 at 9:00 am)Godschild Wrote: No it's not, love, peace, kindness, service and many other things are taught by scripture and in many churches. The scripture says a person goes to hell because of the sins that person commits, it also says that a person can find forgiveness of sin through Christ and the love He showed in His life death and resurrection.
Quote:I do not know of any forcing to live a certain way, I do know and understand the transformation that takes place as we grow in a relationship with Christ. A Christian life is like any other life, you live it, there is no burden to it as you seem to believe. No one can live a life care free with no rules, life lived comes with some type of rules whether you're a Christian, atheist or whatever.
A Christian doesn't have to avoid anything, a Christian wants to avoid those things that are sinful, we are not perfect, we do sin and we understand we need forgiveness.
You have a great misunderstanding about hell other than you know it's a scary place. Actually it's a place of self made horror, a place where a person can find no love, it's a place where love can not exist, ever. Hate, despite, mean spirited, any and every kind of ugliness that's ever existed. A person will believe in God before they are in hell, they will be before Him in the Judgement. I do not believe God can hate even those who will spend eternity in hell, I see no reason that He would.
If one kills in the name of God that doesn't mean they will be in hell, it's murder, invoking the name of God doesn't change the fact it's murder, and the person who perishes could be a Christian and go to heaven. I still do not see that you've shown that Christianity is threatening.
So it is ok to kill in the name of god?
So you are really not afraid of going to hell? The treat of hell is not scary to you?

SB Wrote:Sorry I guess I should of said more...My point is mistranslation.. "almah"is the Hebrew word for young woman or woman of marriageable age. "bethulah" is the Hebrew word for virgin. In the original text Mary is describe as "almah" NOT "bethulah". When translated to Greek it was misinterpreted.
Quote:You're right, however that mistake in translation doesn't mean Mary wasn't a virgin, it does mean she was of the age to be married and this was the point the original translation was trying to make. A virgin could been of any age, young to old.
Facepalm So where did the "magic" birth come from?

SB Wrote:You missed the point and helped prove it. It was in a different culture. Other religions are in different cultures. God apparently showed himself to one culture. The rest must be the only ones that "made up" gods, because god didn't love them. So they are doomed to sin, because they are in a different culture and do not understand that god appeared on the other side of the world-in a different place. All those doomed people on the other in a different place not knowing a thing of "greatness" happened.
Quote:I do not think I misunderstood, the point I made was that today's culture didn't exist, so why should we expect the writings to be any different than they are. You do not expect the writings of other ancient literature to be any different than they are so why do you want a different standard for the Bible.
You're forgetting the book of Genesis where all people knew about God and then abandoned what they knew for gods that were only stone or wood, yes they abandoned the one living God. So God established a people to reveal Himself to the world once again, this is the purpose of the nation of Israel and they were, are and will be God's special people because of what they went through because of Him. God gave His Son as a sacrifice for mankind, He didn't forget anyone and as for those who have not or did not hear about Christ they will be judged by God fairly in what they did know about right living.
Banging Head On Desk Sorry your talking circles and missing logic.

Quote:"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son and whoever believes in Him (what He did and is) shall not perish but have everlasting life." Please show me how that verse could be in the slightest threatening.
It's good to see that there are some here that are willing to listen and learn. Thanks for being honest.
If you don't believe you will parish. THAT IS A THREAT






GC Wrote:God has never made a mistake, that would be something impossible for an omniscient being. You and I are responsible for our own sin, it can't be passed off to another. If God had not allowed Adam and Eve the free will to choose, then what kind of God would He be, you've expressed your desire not to be controlled by Him, do you think they would have felt differently. If they did, they sure didn't show it through their actions, they chose to disobey God ie. to be sinful. I'm not sure what you're trying to say with the rest of your statement above. I'll try and give an answer though. Who says all people were going to hell before Christ and exactly what have you got against Christ being our substitute for our sin so we can go to heaven.

SB Wrote:Making sinful humans is not a mistake?
A happy, un-threatening one, that is bored?ROFLOL
Quote:Not sure what you find funny. God made them perfect and with free will. They used that free will to defy God's commandment and caused their perfect state to be lost, and the relationship they had with God was lost. They understood what they had done, that's why they were hiding from God. Ever since that time God put His plan into place to redeem man so we could live in that perfect state with God.
I guess they are NOT perfect if they sin...

Quote:I live in pain every minute of every day, so yes I understand pain, I also understand the mental pain of having sick loved ones, my dad is gone and my mom is not well and I worry every day about her. We just buried my wife's father who had been very sick for several years and I just lost an aunt yesterday who had been sick with a bad heart for some time. Yes I understand pain, well, both physically and mentally.
What I see is life and how things can turn out, I've been around for some time and have seen and lived through much, experience has a lot going for it when it comes to truth.

GC
I am sorry to hear all that. I can understand know why YOU have have turned to god. You want answers and hope, which is only human. I guess god is the only thing keeping you from going more insane.

You see I look at the world in a whole different "logic" then you. I SEE the world, without god, and can still find some comfort in it. I study animal behavior and have learned much about life through how they live. They do not worship a god, they live and die and just accept it. They seem to have more free will then we do. I try to find good in life and don't need some god or mistranslated old book to tell me what is right or wrong...
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