Dear God, Eve what have you done?

[Drich]

Well erma gerd

It's seems as you don't know what this evidence doesn't look like, I've obviously stated earlier that I have no clue WHAT it looks like because it's never been presented in front of my face. All I was asking was for you was to apply your "critical thinking" brain and show me the evidence that already had for this your claim, not another claim. But you obviously didn't have evidence nor could you find evidence, could you Drich? Well assuming you were a rational human being who could deduce things correctly, you would have deduced the evidence I wanted see regarding the validation of your claim. (that Adam's children reflected the evolutionary processes of man) this could be evidence such as fossil records,

You did not read or understand the post I wrote on the current location of eden did you?

One of the reason we look to that area as Eden is because no fossiles have been found there. without the existance of fossiles in a given region how is one to produce them?

or holy shit, no really, fossilized fecal matter of these people that could serve as evidence for their existence which would give lea way to your theory.

Actually no it wouldn't because anyone with 1/2 a brain would ask: How do you know this was Adam or eve's poop?

Or best of all, some genetic evidence would be FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC. But wait, you don't know what these look like do you Drich.

... and what would you compare that to?

If Adam and eve were genetically identical to 'ape man' then how is one able to distinguish between adam or Eve from any other souless homo sapeian?

Or can you not apply your brain and say "hey this form of evidence is exactly what I need to validate my theory"!

kinda like the massive oil feilds in Iraq and the lack of fossiles in that area?

Which by the way is exactly what any person does who is hot and horny over their "flawless" theory.

No this is what atheist do. I and people like me know what truth is and know you all have been programmed to disregaurd it. When confronted with absolute truth you people abandon the conversation or by faith and without cause dismiss what is said. So to avoid this I and people like me must approach the truth slowly with you. in this way we are able to address one element at a time. By doing this and not destroying your theory outright you are force to contend and defend what you believe in all directions. Realizing at some point you will abandon the conversation, but by making my arguements simple enough to seemingly argue against, we get to go much deeper into the conversation that we would if I simply just beat you over your head with my 'proof.'

In this instance you called for proof. I made you define proof. when you did, I showed you your request for this 'specific proof' was not a viable request for this region of the world. This would have one verify and seek something obtainable if the conversation were to go on.

I mean shit Drich, you have one hell of a theory here that obviously seems to work because nobody here can argue with it. It has super high chances of being bullet-proof. So please do humanity a favor and take your theory to conferences among hundreds of the worlds most revered scholars because after all you do hold the theory that explains Human origins, right down to the last grain of salt.

Actually funny you should mention it. there are a few who have taken my initial idea and are currently working on fortifying it. I have been told there has been a paper written on it. who knows in a few years you may Richard Dawkins falling before it in some formal debate.

Oh! And do please don't forget your evidence. You will need that if you are going to go far with this superb and awesome theory of yours.

all anyone has to do is define what it is he or she is looking for and I can help them find it.

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In order to interpret data one must first be able to identify it. I am simply asking you to provide parameters you need to identify data.

And I told you: whatever convinced you, if you're a rational being and approaching this honestly, would be sufficient to convince me.

But you're not being rational about this, I suspect. In fact, I have almost no doubt that what actually convinced you was that you wanted to square a literal interpretation of the bible with known scientific facts, and so you invented desperately until such a thing existed.

That's why you're so unwilling to tell us what evidence convinced you. If that's not the case, what is it that's stopping you?

The Holy Spirit convinced me, then He went on to help me find all sorts of 'coincidental truths' that support the truth of creation. The coincidental truths in of themselves can be dismissed, and I believe that is the point. Fore God is not looking to convert people through creation, just prevent people from falling from faith through evolution.

Some of those truths have been mentioned in the evolution thread I did, and others were left in response to C.Dreaming's post.

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Yeah but on the other hand men have to SHAVE! So I don't know why you girls are always complaining!

[ducks]...

Y-you poor whittled thwings, havin to shave those stubbly little faces? D'awwww
Go shave or wax your legs, toes, fingers, arms, under arms, eyebrows, and (for some) upper lipstick and ears and private parts, then get back to me about complaining. Mmk?

Nora.. what did the doctor say?

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Drich, your timeline doesn't match up with reality. Oil doesn't form from biological matter in just 6k years nor was the sand atop it accumulated in such little amounts of time. What's more is you haven't provided any evidence for a worldwide flood even if it happened as you claim it did. What's more, scientists have already debunked your version of a flood already. The world would not have survived as it is now, with a flood like that. Also, I merely need to go to the local fossil shop to see the extent of oceanic fossils sitting atop the rocky mountains, and I guarantee those formed over more than a year . I posted the Smithsonian link because even to a layman such as myself, you really can't mistake the biological, archaeological, and DNA evidence that shows just how mankind came to form itself. As for having souls, well, arguments without evidence are just as easily discarded as they are made up. I could say that all humans have memories of their ancestors stored within them but unless I have PROOF for such a claim, why would I expect you to believe me?
I on the other hand, have yet to see anything but bare assertions from you on this matter and I'm disappointed, considering it was once a pivotal reason for me to drop my faitg--because the Bible has been tried and found in such critical error, even when its tested out based upon what it asserts. Do you really think that all the DNA evidence showing exactly where humanity evolved from, supports in any way a garden full of magically poofed human beings with souls who then mated with monkeymen? I mean, really?

Bunny,

The garden exist for millions if not billions or even trillions of years before the exile. The exile is what happened 6000 years ago.