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Why would God?
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RE: Why would God?
(January 8, 2014 at 11:33 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Actually GC I do not think God can foresee, with absolute certainty, that Adam would sin. The future does not exist and thus no one, not even God can have knowledge of what does not exist. The whole point of free will is that it is free of external constrains. Adam's choice could not be fated. It was a possibility not yet actualized.

Which would make a good deal of sense, given the number of times god is surprised by stuff, or has to ask people questions, in the bible. The other alternative is a kind of Doctor Manhattan-style predetermination thing, where everything, even god acting surprised at things he knows will happen, is written, and he's just playing his part the same as anyone else, just with foreknowledge.
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Why would God? - by StoryBook - December 23, 2013 at 11:12 am
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