Why would God?

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Ok, excuse me if I sound rude. I don’t mean to be, just trying to make things straight.

1. You say god, knows all and made it so everyone could understand his word. I find it very hard to understand that. How come no one can agree on the same thing? Why are their different ideas on what god ment?
I’m not trying to say you are wrong, just that you are not adding up…

Let me try and explain myself better. First God does know all things, that doesn't mean everyone will know correctly all of His word. Everyone can read God's word and get a surface understanding of it, however one needs to have a relationship with God and the willingness to accept what God reveals in His word, not what we want to hear, but what God reveals. The Bible was written so those who seek God can find Him without having a greater understanding about God and His will ie. the NT and salvation. Once a person comes to God through Jesus Christ and they desire that greater understanding, God will reveal things that can't be understood through reading it without God's direction. Like I said before, there are many Christians that have a personal agenda for what God's will means, one that will fit their life style, they do not want to surrender to the greater plan God has for their life, or they believe they know God's will before God teaches them. So you see some Christians do get the big head within the church and try and run their part of it by their own desires instead of first asking God what He wants them to accomplish in His will. So to put it in simple terms, many of the things people hear from Christians, are what they say God wants, without ever consulting God, in other words they do not get far below the surface meaning of God's word themselves.

2. I’m not calling you closed minded because you evolution different. I’ calling you closed minded because you claim to see through gods eyes, like god. Yet you are only seeing what you think he wants you to see, that’s closed minded. You are automatically assuming that because it is not in your book that there is not possibility of it, which is closed minded.

I see things through God's eyes because He has taught me through His word, I wasn't talking just about nature, mostly life. Science has taught us a lot about nature, it's my belief that they got the theory of evolution wrong, they took natural selection to the extreme, an extreme that doesn't make sense. I am seeing things He wants me to see, oh I'm sure I bring my opinion into what God says at times, I'm not perfect. When something goes against God's word I appose it, I'm sure there are many things in God's word that I accept, such as natural selection. Natural selection isn't in scripture, yet it doesn't go against what God's word teaches. You do the same things as others here do, you assume I assume if it's not in the Bible it's not real and that's just not the way it is.

3. I do question things in evolution, BUT I do see truth in it. I do believe we have evolved from single cells, just look at pregnancy. See you have conditioned yourself to not question god but who created god? How did he become to be? There will always be questions to our excitants, not even you can delude yourself to know the reason to life or how it really came to be.

I have questioned God about what's in the Bible, why, because I wanted to know what the meaning of certain things were, what I was being taught or had decided for myself just didn't make sense, so I asked God and not other people.
God answers that through the scriptures, He says He was not created, He says He as always existed. No one could understand this especially during the times the word of God was being written, so why should He even try to explain how that is possible.
I haven't deluded my self about life, I know God to be perfectly truthful to me, so why should I doubt He did as He said and created all things. I do not need to be concerned about how life came into existence, I know this, I do like learning about how life works. As far as pregnancy is concerned, the DNA is already there to instruct the development.

4.So science makes a little more sense to me than a 2000+ year old book that was writer centuries after you supposed creation. Science keeps discovering and researching new things, but you book stays with its misinterpreted stories. I can see things in science, but have yet to see a man walk on water.

Okay let's come to an understanding, if you are not going to show me the Bible is misinterpreted you need to accept it is. I'm sure you are going on what nonbelievers have shown you or the biased information from the internet. Misinterpretation has be argued here many times and nothing has been shown to be misinterpreted. Sure there are a few words we do not know the exact meaning of, but there are many very intelligent people who have translated scriptures and have been able to piece together a probable meaning. Do you know the standards that were set forward before the newest translation were published, if not you should look into it.
I've never seen a man walk on water either, but I know God did, remember when I said God can make His creation work for His will. I also gave you a verse that said, "nothing is impossible for God."
You mean to say you're not impressed by a book that has never needed to change, I see the beauty in that.

5.I’m not rejecting as you say, I’m questing. What you say brings more questions to my head. Sorry if you make you think…

I'm glad you have these questions and hope you continue to ask, but it seems that everything I've said so far has been rejected by you, please keep the questions coming. I want guarantee I can always give you an answer but, I will try.

6.Honestly, drinking and drugs are pretty generic things. Many people stop without go. Can you elaborate more on how god helped you overcome that? How did he send people to help you?

God put people into my life that started praying for me and God went to work in my life by doing nothing. What I mean by nothing He removed His grace from my life and I was alone to deal with the world. I was felling at everything badly, even my marriage looked hopeless. I knew God was working on me in this way, so I came back to Him and turned my life over to Him and immediately my life began to change for the better. Quite smoking, drinking, drugs and all the rest that was tearing my life apart. All at once, no I'll do one at a time but all of them at one time. You may believe drinking and drugs are generic, I disagree completely, I've lost friends to these things and seen enough lives ruined to fill a large neighborhood.
For those who know how to use prayer they can unleash the great and loving power of God, I'm so thankful for those who decided to work in God's will for me.

I know how the Catholic Church can be, my wife use to be Catholic. Being Catholic seems to be more important than actually being a Christian. Ritual seems to be what drives most Catholics, please don't misunderstand I believe many Catholics are Christians, what I do not believe, is that for the most part the Catholic hierarchy cares about the salvation Christ brought to the world, the ritual part of the religion is more important to them, they go against some of the most basic teachings of the Bible, the Bible is our instruction book and shouldn't be ignored.
GC

So you think that your way of understanding the bible is the only right way? I’m confused as to how you know that they are doing “wrong”? Does that mean they will go to hell?

No, not at all, there is the basics that bring salvation and most but not all denominations hold to these basics, from there many different ideas have formed over 2000 years, many wrong and many correct. The finial judgement as to who goes to heaven is God's, and that judgement is based on one's relationship with Jesus.

you believe I'm closed minded because you're right and I'm wrong, I see that as closed minded. You also believe I'm closed minded because I stick with what I believe, why should I abandon what I know is right, especially since you have not given any solid proof I'm wrong.

Please re read what you said. It confuses me to think YOU are right and I'M wrong...

Reread what?

the bolded…

I reread it and am not sure why it confuses you, please explain?

8.I find it sad and scary to worship someone that tells people to murder, promotes rape, promotes slavery, and deceives. He also gives threatening ultimatums. This is what I have learned and observed/ figured out

These are questions most Christians turn a blind eye to, however those are some of the things I questioned God about. Like I said I got an answer to them, an answer that goes deep below the surface, something I could not have understand without having a personal relationship with God ie. Jesus.

GC

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@GC, it depends on how the prophecy is presented. Some of God's prophecies have a "repent or else" format. In other cases fulfilment of the prophecy comes from a direct act of God's power apart from human choice. In effect God can make things happen too.

I see those things, but even some of the repent or else situations were made clear they would happen, so how did God know they wouldn't repent. Revelation is full of prophecy, unless one believes it's already finished, personally I do not. Israel has been re-established and this was an OT prophecy, I know you could say that God made it happen and I would agree, however God must have foreseen the reason for the re-establishment.

GC

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Ok, I think I made a connection here. I'm going to look at this in a different point of view.

First: God gave us free will. Free will has caused us to sin. So "Free will" = "Sin" ? To get rid of sin and be forgiven we must surrender to god, and ask for forgiveness, right? If so then we are giving up our free will...

Next, If I'm going to hell and going to suffer for eternity then others will have eternal happiness in heaven. But that can't be possible, god would have to take away free will. My family in heaven will be eternally sad because I am in hell.

Lastly: Thank you for helping me and giving me info. I have been doing lots of research because of the things you have said. Unfortunately some of what you have said does not make complete sense to me. I love figuring things out, mostly on my own. I do this by observing and analyzing. I also like looking at things in a Psychological way, guess that's why I'm really good with animal behavior.

So base on what you have told me,about how you can see god... I can fully believe in Quetzalcoatl and Tezcatlipoca . They created the world. They and the others gods help us all. Like Tonatiuh, which is the god of our sun. How else could this fire call of energy just be there. I also believe in Xochiquetzal, I can feel the love this goddess gives us, and see the flowers she has created. And so on(yes these are real).

See, no one can be 100% on creation. There are so many dam stories about creation and life. So much stuff people believe to be true because it is written down. You believe this because you have hope, and a subconscious fear of hell. You find parallels in your life and convince yourself of a reality from a book. A book that was written by a human, claim to get answers from a god. He saw life and made his own conclusion and story for it, just as all the others did for their god(s) and creation stories.
I'm not telling you to stop believing, you seem to have had a ruff time with life and are using this book to get you though it(life in general). I'm asking you to come back to reality for a bit and not be blind to the other possibility. To stop and see the world for yourself. I have looked at Buddhism and have seen that you can go though life and be happy without a god. I'm not Buddhist but the information I can get from it, and observing the world, and what you have said to me, I have found more to life and figured out things to help me better mine. It is a great power of wishful thinking. I'm trying to see things as a whole and not a part. All these stories seem to have something that off or illogical. People did/do whole heartily believe in these stories of creation. They feel the same way, that they are right, in the Muslim as you do about your god. Now you both can't be right, can you?

Wow now after all this I think I'm going from a 5 to a 6 on the Dawkins scale...