(January 12, 2014 at 9:00 pm)Aractus Wrote:(January 12, 2014 at 1:15 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Who cares? Perhaps for some people, it would be a fair trade off. For others it wouldn't. I'm not going to bump in and decide what people should be doing with their lives. I wouldn't want somebody forcing me to stop doing what I love and I wouldn't to force others to stop doing what they love either.She manipulates the people around her into believing she's healthy when she isn't, she hurts those who love her by putting them through it, she's irresponsible as a parent.
You people bashing her are no better than homophobes. These people have a different sense of sexuality ingrained in them and instead of living a lie, they choose to express it. We should be congratulating them for "coming out".
Delusions/rationalizations are certainly an understandable consequence of trying to live your dream while at the same time trying to satisfying other contradictory desires and also trying to satisfy the ethical system society pushes on you. There's a desire for your sexual lifestyle and there's a desire for a healthy lifestyle. The two in this case are at odds. Let's put this as +/-. Fat fetishizers want both (+/+). Some have deluded themselves into thinking that this is possible right now. Some try to do it anyway and live with the costs to their health although they try to minimize those costs where possible (+/-). You're wanting to them to deny their sexual desires and always align themselves with health no matter what (-/+). You're just for health for health's sake. Many homosexuals died from aids in the 80's and 90's. Do we say "Oh, if only we forced them to undergo gay conversion therapy, they would have never caught AIDS and died?" (i.e. -/+). No. Instead we've worked to advance science enough to the point where we have made AIDs a much lesser threat than it once was (homosexuality is now virtually +/+).
Now, as far as her responsibilities as parent go, you may be right. I'm just for doing what you want insofar as that doesn't hurt other people. Is going to an early grave hurting your love ones? Do you have a duty to sustain yourself for the sake of those closest to you? I'm not sure yet. If that's the case, where do you draw the line then? Because logically, if we have a duty to sustain our lives for the sake of others, then all six billion of us should be ethically compelled to be spending all our lives studying to be doctors so we could then spend our lives to find the cure for death. Where do you draw the line?
Quote:By the way, anorexia is quite different since it's a serious mental disease - but no one looks at an underweight anorexic and says "good for them, their choice, they're perfectly healthy and doing what makes them happy"!Maybe we should?
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).