Do Christians actually want evidence?

[Drich]

When you threaten non-believers with hell you demean and embarrass yourself on every level.

i didn't threaten anyone I just redirected the question I was asked, and had some fun with the answer.

You betray the hatefulness and violence which lie at the heart of your beliefs. You let slip the veil of spurious love and forgiveness and show that underneath it all, your faith is nothing but an ultimatum: OBEY OR SUFFER.

your appeals to stereotypes betray your inability for observation and independent thought. I am just short of 4000 post on this website, and maybe just shy of 10,000 on a few others combined. I would gladly challenge you to look at any or all of them to find me pushing a doctrine of obey or suffer... Ever.

Because that's all you've got in the end; once we've pointed out the fallacies and the errors and the lousy logic and circular reasoning and the factual inaccuracies that reveal your beliefs for the medieval nonsense they are, all you've got is THREATS.

And all you guys have is an attempt to dismiss by appealing to known Christian stereotypes without actually addressing content.

You're not even a bully. Your imaginary friend God is the bully; you're the sneaky little kid who sucks up to the bully and tells tales on all his pals to him.

i guess not all stereotypes are always wrong. But most are, and your bad for using them...

And the worst thing is? We're LAUGHING at you because you're threatening us with something that isn't even there. The bully you're hiding behind isn't real. To us, when you threaten damnation, you look as sad and pathetic as a guy trying to rob a bank with a water pistol. Your threats are literally empty and you degrade yourself and belittle your faith in making them.

we'll see... Isn't that right stimbo?

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The fact that hell exists as a threat means that even God understands that a relationship with himself isn't all its cracked up to be.

For once we agree completely.. The evidence shows that Heaven isn't all it is cracked to be. There are those who knowingly accepted eternal separation that spend an eternity serving God.

(Better rule in hell than serve in Heaven.) some of us were not meant to serve. That is why we have been given this life. So when we are sent to hell we know exactly why.

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The above link is this whole passage in the Greek. In its alliterative form the passage can also read 'you will never be with out power or strength.' But again most bibles are direct translations, and do not typically lend themselves to commentary.

I'll just take your word for it, mostly because either way it's still not exactly accurate.

calm down I was just having some fun with the idea that you are going to burn forever sheesh...

Yeah, I don't find that funny.

They say never say never, I am saying I will never appeal to another God even if there is proof beyond proof (which by the way I wrote a thread or about 12/21/12) if Jesus is not God the. I do not want anything to do with whatever Heaven there is. There is not other God/circumstance I want anything to do with in this life let alone eternity.

So, you're essentially saying that no evidence will ever change your mind on this topic?

That's... ugh.

and if this 'dishonest lynchpin' belongs to Drich, but to God.. Then what? Will you debate Him on your judgement day?

If this is so, then it's just another way in which your god has rendered belief in him to be irrational.

Nothing this world can provide will ever convince me of anything, because the master of this world does not want us to seek or accept atonement. For example look at the rules of rational, logic, and even the greater appeal of 'science.' None of these schools of thought/data processing has any way to process data concerning God unless God can be defined by the finite means that define these 'learn-ed' ways of thinking. Do you see the paradox yet?

If say science or logic can produce a box and place it around known attributes of God test and expect to get a reproducible result then what is labeled to be God is actually bound by the laws of science or logic, and therefore not the alpha and omega... So anything we can 'prove' will be proved to be a false God..

Oh, and there is alot A lot of things I do not find funny that you guys post and have a good laugh about, some of it I roll with while other times I will speak out. Bottom line is if we are truly representing what we believe on this website, some one is going to get mad at some point. So ruffle your feathers if you must, and move on like I and everyone else who tows the line on this side of the fence is expected to do day in and day out.