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reasons to believe, there is no God
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God
(March 2, 2010 at 1:56 pm)Watson Wrote: Do you think that the inventor of computers, such a useful invention that serves us extraordinarily well even today, would have even bothered if he didn't love his own species, you know, us on some level? Would those who invested time and effort into comin gup with better medincine and practice and care for the sick have ever done so if they did not love the people they were attempting to heal? Would those scientific discoveries have even been worth it to the people making them if they didn't give a flying fuck and didn't love society?

Seriously, are you fucking deranged?

You don't have to love society to make a scientific discovery. You also don't have to love your species to invent a computer. Was the atom bomb a product of love? How about the H-bomb?

The innate need to retain species survivability is not love, it is a mechanism forged through evolution. We have a sanctity of life because it's subjectively moral to do so and retains certain favorable aspects of the species. Love plays a role in life, but it is by no means the main underlying reason of everything we have accomplished. "Giving a fuck about" and "loving" are two different things. Acknowledgment and acceptance do not equal love. Care and general concern do not equal love.

(March 2, 2010 at 1:56 pm)Watson Wrote: Wsidom is not a gift of age. Nor is love.

I'll challenge that. Wisdom is a trait that is heavily dependent on life experience and perspective, something you are not likely to have at a young age, especially as you are still developing physically and emotionally. If you are the 16 year old, I find it absolutely ridiculous that you're giving people pep talks about what you think love is.
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reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 27, 2010 at 3:42 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by fr0d0 - February 27, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 27, 2010 at 3:46 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by fr0d0 - February 27, 2010 at 5:14 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Darwinian - February 27, 2010 at 3:55 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 27, 2010 at 4:19 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Xyster - February 27, 2010 at 4:29 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 27, 2010 at 6:58 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tiberius - February 27, 2010 at 8:02 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - February 27, 2010 at 6:37 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 27, 2010 at 7:04 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - February 27, 2010 at 7:24 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Alex - February 27, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by LEDO - February 27, 2010 at 7:01 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Darwinian - February 27, 2010 at 7:03 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by LEDO - February 27, 2010 at 7:19 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 27, 2010 at 7:28 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Zen Badger - February 27, 2010 at 8:32 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 27, 2010 at 9:55 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Darwinian - February 27, 2010 at 7:20 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Darwinian - February 27, 2010 at 7:34 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Xyster - February 27, 2010 at 8:30 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - February 27, 2010 at 10:05 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 27, 2010 at 10:08 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Pippy - February 27, 2010 at 10:09 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 12:10 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Alex - February 28, 2010 at 12:11 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - February 27, 2010 at 10:09 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by padraic - February 27, 2010 at 10:21 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 28, 2010 at 12:02 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 12:33 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 28, 2010 at 1:55 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 11:35 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tiberius - February 28, 2010 at 3:05 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by fr0d0 - February 28, 2010 at 7:49 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by downbeatplumb - February 28, 2010 at 8:13 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by fr0d0 - February 28, 2010 at 11:31 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 2:05 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 11:44 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 12:47 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Violet - February 28, 2010 at 4:15 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 28, 2010 at 11:34 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 2:31 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 1, 2010 at 10:38 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Loki_999 - March 1, 2010 at 12:26 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - March 1, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 1, 2010 at 12:58 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - March 1, 2010 at 2:36 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 1, 2010 at 3:49 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - March 1, 2010 at 4:02 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tiberius - March 1, 2010 at 4:26 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - March 1, 2010 at 4:03 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - March 2, 2010 at 1:02 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - March 2, 2010 at 1:17 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - March 2, 2010 at 1:56 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - March 2, 2010 at 2:36 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tiberius - March 2, 2010 at 2:41 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Violet - March 2, 2010 at 4:42 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - March 2, 2010 at 5:38 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tiberius - March 2, 2010 at 8:46 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 2, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Ace Otana - March 2, 2010 at 3:50 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 2, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Ace Otana - March 2, 2010 at 4:28 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 2, 2010 at 5:17 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Ace Otana - March 2, 2010 at 6:50 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 3, 2010 at 10:37 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Ace Otana - March 3, 2010 at 11:20 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 3, 2010 at 12:25 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Ace Otana - March 3, 2010 at 12:55 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 3, 2010 at 4:40 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Ace Otana - March 3, 2010 at 5:27 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 3, 2010 at 6:27 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Ace Otana - March 3, 2010 at 6:55 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 4, 2010 at 4:48 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Ace Otana - March 5, 2010 at 9:45 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - March 5, 2010 at 12:48 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - March 5, 2010 at 1:12 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Loki_999 - March 4, 2010 at 4:55 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Darwinian - March 2, 2010 at 6:15 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 2, 2010 at 6:43 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by fr0d0 - March 2, 2010 at 7:56 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Darwinian - February 28, 2010 at 8:38 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 12:51 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Darwinian - February 28, 2010 at 12:53 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 12:54 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 1:06 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 1:17 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by fr0d0 - February 28, 2010 at 1:36 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 1:19 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 1:33 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 1:48 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 1:52 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 2:19 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 2:26 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 2:51 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 3:08 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - February 28, 2010 at 3:52 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - February 28, 2010 at 4:50 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 4:54 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - February 28, 2010 at 4:56 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 4:58 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - February 28, 2010 at 4:59 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 5:03 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Welsh cake - February 28, 2010 at 4:59 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 28, 2010 at 5:40 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tiberius - February 28, 2010 at 5:45 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tsidkenu - February 28, 2010 at 7:14 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - February 28, 2010 at 5:10 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 5:17 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - February 28, 2010 at 5:34 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 5:38 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tiberius - February 28, 2010 at 8:03 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - February 28, 2010 at 8:19 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 8:31 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - March 1, 2010 at 1:18 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 9:19 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 9:25 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 9:44 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tiberius - February 28, 2010 at 9:40 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 9:42 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tiberius - February 28, 2010 at 9:50 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Watson - February 28, 2010 at 9:46 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - February 28, 2010 at 10:09 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Loki_999 - March 1, 2010 at 4:21 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Violet - March 1, 2010 at 4:43 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - March 2, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Violet - March 2, 2010 at 5:22 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - March 2, 2010 at 5:29 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Violet - March 2, 2010 at 6:22 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Minimalist - March 2, 2010 at 7:15 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Darwinian - March 2, 2010 at 7:59 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by fr0d0 - March 2, 2010 at 8:02 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Darwinian - March 2, 2010 at 8:03 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Violet - March 2, 2010 at 8:09 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Violet - March 2, 2010 at 9:04 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Tiberius - March 2, 2010 at 9:11 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Violet - March 3, 2010 at 5:27 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Ace Otana - March 6, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Welsh cake - March 6, 2010 at 5:39 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Loki_999 - March 9, 2010 at 3:01 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tavarish - March 6, 2010 at 6:14 pm
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by tackattack - March 9, 2010 at 7:09 am
RE: reasons to believe, there is no God - by Thor - March 10, 2010 at 12:01 pm

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