(January 15, 2014 at 2:55 pm)StoryBook Wrote:Quote:Anyway. Many writers makes sense as to why there are so MANY contradictions.(January 15, 2014 at 10:07 am)Godschild Wrote: You see contradictions simply because you're looking for contradictions, I see no contradictions because I allow God to guide me through the Bible and see the truth. Most so called contradictions come from cherry picking through scripture. A person needs to compare the scriptures to find answers, when I see what seems to be a contradiction I search out, with God's guidance, other scriptures on the same subject to find the truth within the scriptures.
Its like you see god because you are looking for god...
I'm not looking for contradiction, I see them. Now I'm just starting to read the bible as a whole, start to finish(bet you're happy to hear that) May take awhile because I am busy and it is boring...
I found God because He came to me and showed me who He is. Yes, I'm glad and hope you want give up on reading it. When you get into the begats it does get tedious, hang in there. What contradictions do you see, contradictions within the scriptures, or contradictions with today's science and archaeology.
Quote:Well in Genesis, it says that god made day and night BEFORE he made sun and stars. How is that? The sun makes it day.
As we understand how thing work, the rotation of the earth and the sun makes the day and night. If you noticed God created the light before He created the sun and other stars and He made the light separate from the darkness, just as day and night are, but in the end only God can explain what happened in those first days. As I said before it's God's creation, He can make it work to His will.
Quote:How is it that it says that god made animals then made humans. But then it gos to say the "lord" god made animal after humans because he didn't want us to be alone?
You've misunderstood the verses, God did create animals first and then man. You are confusing the word helpmate or helper with animals. You also need to understand that the first chapter of Genesis is a chronological order of creation, the second chapter is not, it includes the creation of the Garden of Eden and gives a few more details about the creation. The second chapter is more about why God created the Garden and why He created Eve.
Quote:How come god made both men and woman, at the same time. Then later women are created from the rib of a man?
As I said the first chapter of Genesis is a chronological order of creation and the second gives reasons and some details, and was never meant to be chronological.
Quote:It says we are created in GODs image, so in his image we should be perfect. You keep saying that we are not, because of our free will to sin. "In gods image" seems he knew we would sin.
God knew before He created man we would sin, yet He loved us enough to create us despite of what we would do, He also knew it would mean the sacrifice of His Son.
Being created in God's image is a spiritual reference. God is spirit so that eliminates any real physical comparison. God is a triune being God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, so is man, we are a physical being, we have consciousness, that is we are aware of ourselves and we have a soul or spirit which is the part of man that can identify with God.
Man was created perfect, it was man's decision to give up that perfection to acquire forbidden knowledge, a knowledge man did not need to live in a perfect state with God.
Quote:Why does it go from God, to LORD God? Did the writers change and that's why the story is contradicted? How do you know what tale to believe?
You need to remember you are asking questions that only study can answer not just a read though of the Bible. Let's look at it in a simple way for now, before God created anything He was God, He was not Lord over Himself, after He created man he became Lord over man and His creation. When you see the word LORD in all caps it refers to His name Yahweh, which for the Jewish people is not to be spoken in reverence to God. When you start to understand the scriptures you will see there are no contradictions and thus they are not tales but the truth God wants us to know.
(January 15, 2014 at 10:07 am)Godschild Wrote: I'm telling you what God says, we will understand God's plan and why His justice reigns. God says we will not miss those lost to eternal punishment, God's plan is for those in heaven to be eternally happy and at peace. Now that you have me thinking about it, those going to eternal punishment will probably be allowed to miss those in heaven, part of the punishment. If missing loved ones is part of eternal punishment it can't be part of eternal life in heaven.
Why are people not to be sad? No, free will is what it is, a decision, though the decision can result in sadness or happiness.
Quote:I'm going to hell,as you think. So my family will miss me. They will know I will be punished for something as simple as not believing. They will probably prey for my forgiveness but it won't happen because god thinks I am hopeless. So there will be no happiness.
You really think that if one of your family members/or close friends goes to hell that you won't feel worried for them?
You sad people can't be sad in heaven, it is everlasting happiness and peace.
I do not know you're going to hell, I can't know the future.
In his life yes your family will miss you, just like I miss family and friends that have died, most I expect to see in heaven, some I have doubts about and some I'm pretty sure I'll never see them again. With their deaths their eternal destination is sealed, it does me no good to worry, but I'm sad for those who I have doubts about.
A person goes to eternal punishment for unforgiven sin, repentance is not possible without Christ in your life and with no repentance there will be no forgiveness. you can only have forgivness through a relationship with Christ. So as Adam and Eve made a decision against God and suffered the consequences, people can make a decision for God and reap the rewards. So the choice is your's, your finial destination belongs to you, God has laid down a plan, you can accept it or reject it.
Once again I'll explain, everyone in heaven will understand God's just actions and will not fill sad, they will support what God's plan accomplished.
Quote:After reading Eve "sinning" it seems like they didn't have free will till they ate the fruit and realized that they where naked. They gain knowledge and awareness, which seems like free will.
Choice is free will and they had the freedom to choose to disobey God or obey Him, they made a choice, a wrong one but nevertheless they chose.
As far as their nakedness, before they chose to sin they knew nothing of the evils that the knowledge would reveal they had obtained, they lived in innocence. Keep this in mind for a future question you will probably have about Paul and sin and grace.
Quote:They will learn of good and evil, which is a choice from free will. They were doing what they were told, God told them not to eat the tree, but the serpent told Eve it was ok too, so she did.
So did god create the serpent? Did he make it evil?
God did not create evil, that would be against all that God is, as for the serpent, it was probably just a way of referring to Lucifer after his fall. Let me ask you a question please, what reason would God have to make evil, He knew the price His Son would pay because of evil?
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.