(March 3, 2010 at 7:41 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The bible was written by man. This is my contention as a Christian. You wan't to prove the bible wasn't influenced by God... and how exactly do you propose to do that? Using methods found useful in science perhaps? I don't think you're listening.
How did so many wide and varied understandings of gods and deities come about then if it was all from one originating idea? I think you have it ass about face. The major religions are examples of theology matured. The understanding of my faith is from a honed system of theology, yes. that makes it invalid how?
I'm sorry, but I am not the one presenting the idea that God's word is printed within a book. There is no proof that it is influenced by god, other than within the text itself, so the ball is in your court to prove it. You assert the idea, back it up. Its not my responsibility to prove something wrong that has no foundation to begin with. You are the one who isn't listening. It has been the habit of Christians for too long to try and pass the work onto non-believers. We aren't claiming some intangible intelligence, so we have no responsibility to try and disprove something that 'is invisible and non existent, but TOTALLY there.'
How do you suppose we understand god? Because we have made up more socially applicable worship strategies? Its because we have created gods that appear more human. (Christ, Allah, etc) That isn't 'Theological Maturity', it is merely taking a ridiculous idea and repackaging it into something more tangible. It is all MAN MADE. I cannot stress that point enough. I am not interested in converting Christians, I'll make that abundantly clear. I am interested in keeping Christians from affecting my society with their beliefs, and I take comfort in the fact that your numbers appear to be dwindling. Unless you are going to make a counter argument that is more than just your opinion, don't waste my time frodo.
"The absence of fact is not evidence of fiction." -Mark Twain