RE: My Fellow Atheist
March 3, 2010 at 9:16 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2010 at 9:23 pm by fr0d0.)
(March 3, 2010 at 9:00 pm)TimeDivider Wrote: I'm sorry, but I am not the one presenting the idea that God's word is printed within a book. There is no proof that it is influenced by god, other than within the text itself, so the ball is in your court to prove it. You assert the idea, back it up. Its not my responsibility to prove something wrong that has no foundation to begin with. You are the one who isn't listening. It has been the habit of Christians for too long to try and pass the work onto non-believers. We aren't claiming some intangible intelligence, so we have no responsibility to try and disprove something that 'is invisible and non existent, but TOTALLY there.'
You made the positive assertion that religion is invalid. I have no interest in defending the idea that the book is 'God's words'. To say an idea influenced a book is completely valid. But of course you're just confusing your rhetoric. My responsibility is to prove any claim of God being existent. As my belief doesn't presume any 'existence' as such I have no responsibility to answer that. But then you aren't addressing my theological position, you are challenging an unmade scientific claim.
(March 3, 2010 at 9:00 pm)TimeDivider Wrote: How do you suppose we understand god? Because we have made up more socially applicable worship strategies? Its because we have created gods that appear more human. (Christ, Allah, etc) That isn't 'Theological Maturity', it is merely taking a ridiculous idea and repackaging it into something more tangible. It is all MAN MADE. I cannot stress that point enough. I am not interested in converting Christians, I'll make that abundantly clear. I am interested in keeping Christians from affecting my society with their beliefs, and I take comfort in the fact that your numbers appear to be dwindling. Unless you are going to make a counter argument that is more than just your opinion, don't waste my time frodo.
So you are opposed to individual thought.
Yes MAN worked out a clear understanding of his belief system. It's a bit chicken and egg isn't it. On one hand, you champion science because it's a developed system to understand this physical reality. On the other hand, you dismiss intellectual consideration of the human condition. Personally, I take both and use them fully. You are a concentration camp type character who doesn't want to entertain anything that doesn't fit into a small box you've created. I'll stick with freedom thanks.