RE: Christian Myths and Atheists Lies
March 9, 2010 at 3:41 pm
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2010 at 3:47 pm by bibleabc123.)
(March 9, 2010 at 2:02 pm)Darwinian Wrote: 1. Christians are against educationNo matter what you think the bible implies if Christians did not interpret it as such then it cannot be laid at our faith as a biblical truth
Who says atheists think that Christians are against education? In fact, Christians probably want to educate the younger generation as much, and perhaps more than most. Isn't this the way you spread your superstition and guarantee a fresh new batch of converts?
You can't be serious about this can you? It doesn't take much awareness at all to be aware that the public school system is a bastion of secular indoctrination. Your response on this matter cannot be taken seriously at all...therefore I won't
2. Christians are against science
All of the names you mention here were around or well before the time of the enlightenment. This was a time when it would have been foolhardy to say the least to argue against doctrine and to declare yourself as a non-believer.
So you're seriously trying to tell us that the fathers of scientific thought and research are less significant and have less impact on shaping world history than those who came after them benefited off of their work? Wow! Anything to perpetuate a myth I suppose![]()
Meanwhile here are some more
Francesco Maria Grimaldi 1618-1663 discoverer of the diffraction of light Catholic
Blaise Pascal 1623-1662 mathematical prodigy and universal genius
Robert Boyle 1627-1691 founder of modern chemistry
John Ray 1627-1705 cataloger of British flora and fauna Calvinist (denomination?)
Isaac Barrow 1630-1677 Newton's teacher
Antonie van Leeuwenhoek 1632-1723 discoverer of bacteria
Niels Seno 1638-1686 founder of geology
3. Christians believed the world was flat
Most atheists are aware that scholars and the educated, throughout the ages, accepted that the world was a sphere. The Bible does however make many references to and strongly implies that the Earth is flat.
Christian theologians, almost without exception accepted the fact that the earth is a sphere. The only two Christian writers known to have advocated a flat earth were a 4th-century heretic, Lactantius, and an obscure 6th-century Egyptian Monk, Cosmas Indicopleustes. Later, these two obscure and uninfluential writers were used as the prime evidence to prove that the flat-earth view was accepted by the Church as a whole—or at least by large parts of it. The myth that the Church ‘condemned as heretics all who claimed that the earth was round’ was ‘invented by two fabulists working separately: Antoine-Jean Letronne, an anticlerical 19th-century Frenchman, and Washington Irving.The 19th-century American writer Washington Irving was actually the first major promulgator of the flat-earth myth. In his very unreliable biography of Columbus, titled History of the Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus (1828), Irving wrote that it was the flat-earth believing churchmen who vehemently opposed Columbus’ plan to travel to the Indies on the grounds that his ship would fall off the edge of the earth while attempting to sail across the Atlantic.
Cahill, T., Mysteries of the Middle Ages: The Rise of Feminism, Science, and Art from the Cults of Catholic Europe, Nan A. Talese/Doubleday, New York, p. 224, 2006.
In fact, those who opposed Columbus not only knew the earth was a sphere, but also had a good idea of how large it was—and this was the major reason why they opposed Columbus. Columbus and his men were not afraid of falling off the earth as Irving claimed, but of traveling so far from land in an unknown part of the world. They did not know the American continent existed, and, for this reason, Columbus’ critics correctly believed that a voyage to the Far East would take far too long and cost way too much.
Jeffrey Burton Russell, ref. 33, p. 52.
Quote:You guys believe in an all-powerful all-knowing being who can't be seen yet saved the sins of humankind by coming up with a needlessly complex method even though this being supposedly could have done it instantaneously. Your Bible has been subject to change, reinterpretation, and general distortion for millennia, and you think we are the ones who are the victims of disinformation and distortion?
You've made plans for next week, next month and next year based on a future you can't see and thing called time that only exists as a concept and you actually believe you're pragmatic?
You guys claim to "believe" in science and then patently ignore the basic law of cause and effect and you still have the gall to call yourselves scientific or even educated?
That's not even intelligent!!!
