RE: Christian Myths and Atheists Lies
March 9, 2010 at 4:35 pm
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2010 at 4:45 pm by bibleabc123.)
Quote:...Just forgetting a minor detail that we plan our lives based on our own experiences and the experiences of others, predicted beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt by scientific means and deductive reasoning, and NOT by simply wishful thinking.
You can call it what you want, you can deduce anything you like but there is no such thing as tomorrow pal. All of your predictions are based on BELIEVING. You BELIEVE in tomorrow...call it what you want, BELIEF IS BELIEF! A rose by any name is still a rose, in the same way you WISHFULLY THINK you will wake up tomorrow, YOU DO NOT KNOW!! The fact is one day you WILL NOT, that's not a belief that's a Fact jack! You may hope you will but hope too is not substance of anything other than faith. The only difference between you and me is I believe and I am honest about it you believe and you lie to yourself convincing yourself your belief is fact!

Quote:I'm also guessing the "cause and effect" argument would be the first cause, or cosmological argument. I'd urge you to stop looking for answers in genesis, join the real world, and understand why that argument is so full of holes you could call it swiss cheese.
The real world, whats that, the one where time and space exists? Those concepts that Einstein proved did not really exist? Is that the real world you're talking about. You mean the world where random chance and dumb luck are the author of intelligence and order....I thought that was called Looney Tunes

Quote:You make the claim that scientists have a universe without a cause, then you answer that non-question with a creator, more complex that the universe wit no evidence to support it, and guess what, it doesn't have a cause either.
Have you ever considered that causality and time did not exist "prior" to the Big Bang? Why would you assume that the laws of nature existed?
Blah, blah blah....Its only been since the past century that you guys just finally got around to BELIEVING what the bible has said all along. Before that it was the blah, blah blah the Eternal Universe
We've been telling you for centuries God said it and Bang there was!!!!
Quote:Explain some more, because apparently I'm not that intelligent.
There is still hope, all you have to do is STOP and think for yourself, but wait a minute that's what you think you're already doing now

(March 9, 2010 at 4:24 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(March 9, 2010 at 4:17 pm)bibleabc123 Wrote: You should probably keep in mind that an atheists idea of Utopia were the USSR and Red China, not too good an example for what you guys BELIEVE, not too good at all!!Erm...no. The USSR and China are probably the countries I'd least want to live in. My idea of Utopia is a secular place where the government does not have any official stance on religion, and where people from different religions can work together to create a community.
By the way, you still haven't told us the "truth" behind Galileo.
Where is that secular place? Does it exist or is it something you believe in?

As far as Galileo your assignment if you choose to take it is to read something about the man that doesn't fit in the category of the everyday diet of biased indoctrination you usually take in.
I'll be nice, do my good deed for the day and help to get you started
The Holy Scriptures, to Galileo were divinely inspired and inerrant, though humans can misinterpret their true meaning. “…the Holy Scriptures cannot err and the decrees therein contained are absolutely true and inviolable. I should have added that, though scripture cannot err its expounders and interpreters are liable to err in many ways …when they base themselves always on literal meaning of the words
Sobel, Dava, Galileo’s Daughter: A Historical Memoir of Science, Faith, and Love. Toronto: Viking Press, 1999, 63.