RE: Evidence God Exists
March 10, 2010 at 6:14 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2010 at 6:17 pm by Welsh cake.)
(March 9, 2010 at 12:15 am)AngelThMan Wrote: First and foremost, I would like to define the word evidence.Correction, you don't get to have your own definition of the word 'evidence' especially not when the meaning associated with that word is already in common use and interpreted on a daily basis.
Wikipedia Wrote:Evidence in its broadest sense includes everything that is used to determine or demonstrate the truth of an assertion. Giving or procuring evidence is the process of using those things that are either a) presumed to be true, or b) were themselves proven via evidence, to demonstrate an assertion's truth. Evidence is the currency by which one fulfills the burden of proof.
AngelThMan Wrote:If a meteorologist discovers that rain in one region is evidence of something, and the lack of rain in another region is evidence of something else, and from these observations he forms a theory, then what he has observed is in fact evidence. What I’m about to provide is no different. I have made an observation about something that is real and tangible around us. Therefore, what I am providing is in fact evidence. Basically, I am claiming that there’s evidence all around us that God exits.You made a direct observation of the demonstrably real environment around you, and then immediately conclude your thinking at the juncture of an unfathomably complex reality is an uncomforting one, so that clearly a god must have magically done it all so you can simply maintain your peace of mind. Your half-arsed attempt at deductive reasoning is a frightening and convoluted one to behold. Now if you only apply yourself, maybe someday you'll finally prove Puff the Magic Dragon actually stops the rain whenever you walk outside without an umbrella.
AngelThMan Wrote:I will always speak to you in a civil manner. Atheists, who pride themselves as being intellectually superior to believers, should be able to provide intelligent arguments without profanity and name-calling. Light bantering and snide comments are okay; sometimes that’s part of the fun. But any disrespectful responses will be immediately ignored, regardless of how intelligent your point is.A word of advice: making these assertions you are clearly "civil mannered" and all atheists are douchebags is pointless, arrogant and utterly irrelevant to your argument. In any instance, we'd like to address your argument, not you. If atheists expose the weaknesses in your reasoning, then be intellectually honest and acknowledge those point(s) made! If people are continually refuting your premises for a god then it's wise to pay attention to them and try to understand why your argument is being called out as "invalid" first. It's not your audience that need to ask for less evidence from you, but you that needs to demand more. Don't ignore intelligent and constructive responses people here give you, no matter how 'disrespectful' you may find them to be!
Atheists love to use the word ‘refuted’ a lot. Just because you say my argument has been refuted doesn’t mean it has been. I warn you that I am a tough cookie, and I’ll likely have an answer for just about anything you post. So if you’re easily frustrated, perhaps you should not participate in this discussion.
AngelThMan Wrote:Without further ado, here’s the evidence: Humans are the only species, out of millions of species, which have evolved into an intelligent life form. Other species live pretty much to eat and sleep -- survival. If our evolution were only a result of natural selection, shouldn’t other species, or even just one, have evolved into intelligent beings after millions of years? But the fact is that no other species have been able to develop science, literature, art, music and intelligent thought process as humans have. Isn’t this evidence that God exists?No. Go back and read up on what evolutionary theory actually is first, because you clearly don't understand that Evolution is not a ladder. Also, cognitive faculties and creativity are not regarded as evidence of god(s) existing in reality.
AngelThMan Wrote:Yes it is, and for several reasons. For one thing it corroborates what’s written in the bible, which is that God created man in his image, and that animals are inferior.Not so fast. Where does the creationist's beloved story of Adam and Eve fit into God's plan if you regard evolution as one of the best explanations on the diversity of living organisms on this planet? You do realize that you can't have both as valid working theories when they're incompatible?