RE: So I got in trouble
January 30, 2014 at 2:52 pm
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2014 at 2:53 pm by Drich.)
(January 30, 2014 at 2:21 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I don't have the faith of a mustard seed. Now what?just ask for it. Simply say: God i need a mustard seeds worth of faith. You don't even need that to ask for the faith of a mustard seed. all you need is the ablity to read and a want to have this faith.
Quote:Whether or not it can change my life has no bearing on whether or not there's any truth behind it. The power one's beliefs have over them is very powerful.At this point in your journey belief has nothing to do with it. Your just following the bread crumbs.
Simply go where they lead you.
Quote:A method that provides proof only to those who don't require it is a pretty useless method.It is the foolish things of this world God uses to confound the supposed 'wise and learned.'
Quote:As noted, you assume that our lack of belief is something we intentionally set up and fortify, when in reality, it is a consequence of how our brains are wired to interpret events. Not that I actually want to be a believer, but I can't be. The method you insist upon will never provide the quality of evidence necessary to change my mind and the standards it demands of evidence.The 'methods' you use were created by men looking to intentionally distance themselves from God. The entire methodolgy is critically flawed. In that it is designed to always exclude God as a possiable answer to anything.
This is illustrated when one of you good people ask for proof, and i ask, what does 'proof' look like? No one has ever answered this in such away as to have something take away all doubt from everyone who subscribes to this method of thinking. Matter of fact none of you (except for a petition for a winning lottery ticket) has answered this question period. Why? Because your current belief system will NOT allow you consider God for anything. That my friends is a true confirmation bias.
Why? because this 'wiring' always allows for some explaination no matter how out there to be more plausable that the truth set before you.
This is the choice I see that most of you have made. You put your faith in a method of understanding the world around you, rather than God. over looking the fact that a 'faith in facts' is still an excercise in Faith. The same faith needed to A/S/K. It's just you taken the mustard seed God has given you and planted it the 'field of science.' If this is true then simply ask for another one.
Quote:Your mind is wired to apparently not be able to comprehend the idea that anybody's mind isn't just like yours. And I know I can safely speak for pretty much every atheist out there on this score...Did you ever play any old school RPG? when ever you started you were usally given character points of some sort, and you could take these character points and personal the hero any way you like. You could distribute these points in catagories like strength, Health, Magic, depending on how you wanted to play the game. I see something simliar here with your 'mustard seed.' You have only been given mustard seed, and you put in the science catagory rather than the God catagory.. Not a big deal. Just get over your self enough to ask for another seed. If you can't just read this aloud and i'll help you:
"God give Me another Mustard seed."
then when you get it be faithful to it.
Quote:Be honest and put aside the strength of your convictions for a moment: do you think you are capable of making the conscious decision to abandon your faith? Do you think that anything could ever convince you that you've got it all wrong?
Faith is belief without evidence as so many of you have pointed out. If you have been actually reading what I have said, I am showing and telling you that I do not have faith. God has and continues to give me evidence on a daily basis. Which means what i have is not faith.
Just short of God personally showing me where and what i have wrong in the bible, I will NEVER be convinced otherwise.. In this regaurd I am a saul of tarsus.
I seen too much, Experience too much and been apart of too many miraclous things to not believe in God.
(January 30, 2014 at 2:31 pm)rasetsu Wrote:4 you are holding up 4 fingers.(January 30, 2014 at 2:25 pm)Drich Wrote: asked a bible based/God related question. One that hasn't been done to death and lets see what happens.
(none of the how many fingers am I hold up crap that you pulled earilier. ask a God based question.)
Am I thinking of God right now?
If the answer truly comes from God, you don't need to know the question's specifics. He knows.
If you need to know the specifics, then the answer is coming from you, and not from God.
As before, I'll be charitable. I'll even tell you that it's a question that someone like me might reasonably ask if they are genuinely interested in getting to know the God of the bible.
Enough hints. What is God's answer? And it better be specific, as vague flummery is the stuff of charlatans.