RE: Evidence God Exists
March 12, 2010 at 5:40 pm
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2010 at 5:49 pm by Welsh cake.)
(March 12, 2010 at 1:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No I think the point Angel makes is that 'specialness' comes from our unique position of dominance and not the other way around. At this point in time our position reiterates the theology.Our "dominance" as you put it is merely your perspective or subjective world-view on our current status, technically we're not the dominant species on this planet and never really have been.
Of course there are other forms of intelligence and isn't everything that has no exact equal unique? I think his wording was poor, but he went on to clarify what he meant, which floors the many repeated rebuts on that count.
While creating our own artificial environment instead of gradually adapting is certainly an ability we possess that established our success, this only makes us one-of-the-most successful species currently around. We can't make our own food the way plants do, Bees pollinate flowering plants that we get a deal of our produce from, anything happens to those little guys and we're all screwed basically. Afterall we're not the most successful life-forms in terms of sheer numbers, Viruses, Bacteria and countless pathogens have us beat there I'm afraid.
And for all our 'dominance' it only takes one extinction-event like the asteroid/comet that wiped out the dinosaurs to remove every trace of our brief existence from this tiny celestial body.
(March 12, 2010 at 2:37 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:What part of "couldn't care less" did you not understand? Believe whatever you want, in your private time its your privilege, making existence claims about evidence for god and asserting it as 'truth' in the public place however is a totally different can of worms altogether.Welsh cake Wrote:Many people and myself included honestly couldn't care less what beliefs you profess...This is just a standard line that atheists love to feed all Christians. In this case it doesn't fit at all as I was merely stating that people, including atheists, are not going to give up their beliefs with every little argument that is presented to them.
AngelThMan Wrote:I have answered everything. If you really go through what I've written, you may understand that.I think even you can appreciate you haven't answered anything as of yet. Anecdotes and analogies are not evidence for any god-like being. You still haven't met your burden of proof or demonstrated to us that god actually exists.
AngelThMan Wrote:Way to dodge my hypothetical. Can you answer one question? Or at least be a little more specific please? 'Animals support humans' is a rather vague statement that can literally imply anything. One can interpret that in too many ways, i.e. horses have practical uses as beasts of burden, lab mice are very useful if you need to test for carcinogenic agents, dolphins are friendly, and so on.Welsh cake Wrote:...why didn't your god concept make everything living on Earth have the same level of sentience to start with? Why have animals if humans were only capable of loving him?People here expect me to 'listen' (by which they mean concede), when I get arguments like this. Animals support humans. They also provide scientific benefits for the earth, something you should know since you claim to be all about scientific facts.