RE: Hell does NOT exist in the bible?
February 2, 2014 at 1:31 pm
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2014 at 1:36 pm by Drich.)
(February 2, 2014 at 9:34 am)Esquilax Wrote: I get what you're saying, just pointing out that this line of reasoning also robs you of your authority to make any experiential claims about what hell would be like too, given that the only things we can perceive with any degree of objectivity come via our sensory apparatus and outside confirmation.
Effectively, agreeing with what you're saying places us in a position where nobody can talk about this subject at all, since none of us know anything about the place. And yet there you are, making declarative statements about hell.
Why would anyone assume that I got a special pass to see hell? I have said over and over God has made a commitment to establish and maintain your belief. If he needs to take you through hell to do that, then you better hang on to something while your a/s/king.
As far as excluding anyone from this conversation my 'authority' given to me by my experience begins and ends at the gates of hell and the taste of hell fire. Everything else is based on the bible.
My disbelief of God was not based on how a loving God send someone to Hell. But rather how can their be an 'Omni max' and he be so foolish as to put 'spirits' into fire... The reasoning being a disembodied spirit will not burn. To me this was the achelies heel of Christianity and of God in general.. Never mind all the flaws in that theory brought on by the resurrection. My belief needed a resolution for this problem, so God gave me one. Simply because that is what I needed. Which is what has been offered to everyone else.
(February 2, 2014 at 12:25 pm)Rahul Wrote:(February 1, 2014 at 10:11 pm)Drich Wrote: I've repeatedly brought this up, in that Hell fire is not fire. To be consumed by hell fire simply describes the emotion/reaction evoked by a being engulfed by fire.
Better tell these guys about that, Drich.
Again fire is used because that is the closest thing we have in the way of experiencing it. Hell was beyond pitch dark, no light no fire. What is in hell is hell fire. It consumes without light or burning. It is far worse to experience hell than fire.
(February 2, 2014 at 12:49 pm)truthBtold Wrote: No one has been to hell and no one has or could prove that there is a hell.. why believe something with no prooooooof.
I know how you can find out for yourself if you like.. However it may only be a one way ride.