RE: Hell does NOT exist in the bible?
February 3, 2014 at 1:45 am
(This post was last modified: February 3, 2014 at 1:50 am by Drich.)
(February 2, 2014 at 2:53 pm)Rahul Wrote:(February 2, 2014 at 1:31 pm)Drich Wrote: Again fire is used because that is the closest thing we have in the way of experiencing it. Hell was beyond pitch dark, no light no fire. What is in hell is hell fire. It consumes without light or burning. It is far worse to experience hell than fire.
Which verse explains that? Thanks!
Hell is describes as a bottomless pit. Here: luke 8, luke 16, rev 9, rev 17. Bottomless pits are by nature dark.
Hell has fire as per these verses. Mat 5 and 18, mark 9, James 3, Jude 1(also describes hell being a dark place.)
Fire as we know it produces light. Hell is described as a bottomless pit, and yet has fire. This fire is not the typical fire that we know because the fire we know produces light. So this fire, hell fire is different.
(February 2, 2014 at 3:05 pm)rasetsu Wrote:If you wish to close your mind in order to make this discussion fit your picture of hell then there can not be anything to discuss. I understand why you do it, it makes the conversation safe for you. You know your version of Hell can not exist therefore you can argue from a safe area. Why else would you put such tight parameters on the subject?(February 2, 2014 at 1:31 pm)Drich Wrote: As far as excluding anyone from this conversation my 'authority' given to me by my experience begins and ends at the gates of hell and the taste of hell fire. Everything else is based on the bible.
... [H]ow can their be an 'Omni max' and he be so foolish as to put 'spirits' into fire... The reasoning being a disembodied spirit will not burn. ... My belief needed a resolution for this problem, so God gave me one. Simply because that is what I needed. Which is what has been offered to everyone else.
Can you read, douche bag? In my question, I explicitly excluded dreams and inference alone. Those are the two things you've given me. Perhaps you do read at a fourth grade level if, when asked to give an answer that isn't X or Y, you give me X and Y. (For those who don't know, Drich's "experience" of hell is from a dream he once had in which Jesus gave Drich a taste of hell.)
(February 1, 2014 at 10:15 pm)rasetsu Wrote: So you're claiming ... that you know from experience or someone else's experience what it is like. Not a dream, not "inferred from other things," ...
