Illogical things can be real, like God, I have an idea

[bennyboy]

How would you even make that determination? If something is that far beyond us, then I am only more prone to mistrust those who claim to make special exceptions whenever they suit him.

We wouldn't, and couldn't, make that determination. That's the point.

If God behaves in ways we don't comprehend and his motives can't be known, then those who claim to comprehend him and know his motives are liars.

I think it's much more likely that people lie desperately to themselves than craftily lie to others. But frankly, I wasn't talking about God in that last post.

Could any of these creatures eventually evolve to the point where they could comprehend these things? Do we even have the knowledge to suggest that they don't comprehend them in their own ways? Do we have the conceit to suggest that there is a correct way to comprehend them?

They cannot comprehend the musical language of Mozart, while they might make their own wormy sense of the vibrations. The point is that the human experience, the elation etc. that music can bring, is inaccesible to worms. And since we are less complex in relation to the universe than the worm is in relation to us, I have to assume there are MANY relationships which are similarly inaccessible to us.

As for evolution: if a worm evolved so far as to be able to appreciate Mozart in the way that we do, it would no longer be a worm. Could humanity, by some billions-years-long chaing of events, become godlike? Maybe, but that's blind speculation.

Suggesting that something is beyond our comprehension doesn't by itself indicate that there is actually something there we aren't comprehending.

It's easy to prove there are things we can't comprehend. Pick up an advanced theoretical physics book. 95% of us have no chance to understand it due to pure IQ deficiency. Now, take the top 1% of physicists, and ask-- is it conceivable that another person could be born so much cleverer than them that they wouldn't even be able to understand what he said? I think the answer to that, based on pure statistics, is yes, it is possible.

And this is just among humans, right here, right now.