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Poll: Where do you stand?
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Atheist
72.73%
16 72.73%
Agnostic
18.18%
4 18.18%
Believer
9.09%
2 9.09%
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My Fellow Atheist
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RE: My Fellow Atheist
(March 14, 2010 at 7:00 pm)Arcanus Wrote: [quote='Arcanus' pid='59984' dateline='1268607614']
Your honesty and candor is noted, and rather appreciated. Thank you.

No problem.

(March 14, 2010 at 7:00 pm)Arcanus Wrote: I take issue with (3) and just for two reasons: (i) it does not convey the deep commitment I've been describing, (ii) which I distrust because of how you've been characterizing 'trust' so far in the discussion, compelling me to stress the deep commitment element. Maintain that element and you have my acquiescence.

Alright, how about a deep, ineffable trust and commitment to the concept, which can include, but is not limited to lifestyle sacrifices and changes? It's a bit long, but does it get across what you're trying to illustrate?

(March 14, 2010 at 7:00 pm)Arcanus Wrote: Neither question is relevant to the issue at hand (i.e., what I define faith as), so by answering them I would be derailing the issue. I leave it in your hands to show how they actually are relevant.

Actually these are separate questions that I'm personally asking you. The first question was me trying to better understand your understanding of faith.


A quick aside:

I'll admit that I'm a bit on edge, as I'm used to rebutting arguments that are tired and monotonous. I realize that you're not trying to proselytize or guilt others into believing something inherently illogical. This would lead to my posts making points that aren't necessarily part of the argument. It's sort of a pre-emptive attack - I'm used to dealing with a hundred claims at a time. Straw men and red herrings aside, I try not to make fallacial arguments, but I'm not inerrant, and still learning how reasoned debate works.

I've read through your debate and understand that you choose your words very carefully, it's an eye-opener for me to analyze my own writing style and try not to make simple yet inexcusable mistakes.

I look forward to your replies.
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Messages In This Thread
My Fellow Atheist - by TimeDivider - March 3, 2010 at 6:25 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Tiberius - March 3, 2010 at 7:04 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2010 at 7:15 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by TimeDivider - March 3, 2010 at 7:35 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Tiberius - March 3, 2010 at 7:51 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2010 at 7:41 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by TimeDivider - March 3, 2010 at 9:00 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2010 at 9:16 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by TimeDivider - March 3, 2010 at 9:22 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by padraic - March 4, 2010 at 4:40 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by padraic - March 3, 2010 at 9:14 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2010 at 9:25 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Autumnlicious - March 3, 2010 at 9:53 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2010 at 9:54 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by chatpilot - March 3, 2010 at 10:17 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tackattack - March 4, 2010 at 8:05 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Darwinian - March 4, 2010 at 7:54 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by TimeDivider - March 7, 2010 at 9:13 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by padraic - March 7, 2010 at 10:40 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by TimeDivider - March 8, 2010 at 2:58 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Dotard - March 4, 2010 at 9:46 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tavarish - March 4, 2010 at 10:13 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by fr0d0 - March 4, 2010 at 4:56 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tavarish - March 4, 2010 at 6:16 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by chatpilot - March 4, 2010 at 2:42 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tackattack - March 4, 2010 at 6:55 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by padraic - March 4, 2010 at 7:27 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by chatpilot - March 4, 2010 at 11:23 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tackattack - March 5, 2010 at 4:11 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by chatpilot - March 5, 2010 at 2:35 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by fr0d0 - March 8, 2010 at 4:07 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Edwardo Piet - March 8, 2010 at 6:42 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by TimeDivider - March 8, 2010 at 5:44 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Edwardo Piet - March 10, 2010 at 2:26 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tackattack - March 9, 2010 at 2:42 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by chatpilot - March 9, 2010 at 8:13 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Tiberius - March 9, 2010 at 5:09 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tavarish - March 9, 2010 at 5:17 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by TimeDivider - March 9, 2010 at 8:27 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tackattack - March 10, 2010 at 12:55 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by chatpilot - March 10, 2010 at 1:30 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Autumnlicious - March 10, 2010 at 1:36 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by chatpilot - March 10, 2010 at 2:40 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Ryft - March 12, 2010 at 3:02 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tackattack - March 12, 2010 at 3:05 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Ryft - March 12, 2010 at 4:09 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tavarish - March 12, 2010 at 1:13 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Ryft - March 13, 2010 at 1:01 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tavarish - March 13, 2010 at 6:24 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Ryft - March 14, 2010 at 2:12 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tackattack - March 12, 2010 at 7:32 am
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tavarish - March 14, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Ryft - March 14, 2010 at 7:00 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tavarish - March 14, 2010 at 7:40 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Ryft - March 14, 2010 at 8:25 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tavarish - March 14, 2010 at 8:36 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Ryft - March 14, 2010 at 10:25 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by tavarish - March 14, 2010 at 10:48 pm
RE: My Fellow Atheist - by Ryft - March 16, 2010 at 6:29 am

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