(March 16, 2010 at 3:35 am)kollkolen Wrote: The universe is neither old enough nor large enough for life to have spontaneously begun on its own.What does the age or size of the universe have to do with its capacity for life?
Quote:The very age of the universe requires that an outside force must have at least initiated the process of life in the universe, and the law of cause and effect dictates that the everything that exists within the universe must have come into being as the result of something outside of the universe.What does the age of the universe have to do with it's creators (or lack thereof)? The "law" of cause and effect dictates nothing regarding wether the universe has always existed, came into being by external means, is generated in its entirety by a mosquito in Antarctica and is about to ceasate by means of a flyswatter, or in fact anything beyond that effects can be traced from causes.
Quote:Whether or not this outside force is intelligent or conscious, only one's personal experience can prove or disprove.Proof and disproof are fundamentally impossible for us to know if you define them as absolutes. The above suggests that there is a force that can be intelligent or conscious... further that one can prove or disprove such things (by their experiences, no less!).
I have a question for you... what do you mean by your religious views (those being '16')?
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
