(February 17, 2014 at 8:11 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: They rejected the kinds of gods science would eventually disprove beyond a doubt in favour of a God that is scientifically unfalsifiable and this was 3000 years before the invention of modern science. What they did have an understanding of universe as a self sustained natural order, even if their scientific details of this order were way off. The Biblical God still fits into the picture of a complex naturally ordered rationally understandable universe that science can study. There is no Zeus or Thor up there in the sky if there had been we would be able to see them with telescopes.What an amazing admission! So mankind has continued to redefine their gods so as to keep them just out of reach. I agree with that. We were always coming to this point, where humans would become so technologically advanced that theists would need to move god outside of reality itself. You are really just promoting the last step in the process, where the theist gives up trying to find places to hide his nonexistent god, and simply proclaims "you can't detect him at all, so there!"
You're so close to finally being free from that self-deception. You're only really one more step away, IMO.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould