RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 18, 2014 at 12:41 am
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2014 at 12:57 am by Godscreated.)
(February 17, 2014 at 9:32 pm)truthBtold Wrote:(February 17, 2014 at 7:55 pm)Lek Wrote: Humanly, Jesus could only be descended through one bloodline. When the messiah arrived he was revealed to Jews first, then to the rest of the world. Why he chose the Jews? Who knows.
Ooh. Please!! Dont start with the bloodline shit.. stories of virgin birth. . And god as a man.. what a joke!!
I've come to notice something about you, you do not have enough brains to bring an argument so you rely on the childish novelty of insulting others.
GC
(February 18, 2014 at 12:40 am)Chad32 Wrote:(February 18, 2014 at 12:35 am)Godschild Wrote: Christianity spread through the Roman empire like a wild fire and was the dominate religion before the Roman empire fell, how's that for getting the message out.
GC
That was a good first step, but there was still the vast majority of the world, including those with older religions and mythologies.
Older as you see it, remember I believe in the creation and that includes the garden and this is where God started, with the first two people.
GC
(February 17, 2014 at 11:27 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(February 17, 2014 at 10:18 pm)Lek Wrote: I didn't say the Jews accepted Jesus. In fact, all but a few rejected him as you pointed out. That doesn't mean they were correct. As for the eschatology, most Christains are waiting for the same things when Jeus returns for the final judgement. In the time since Jesus came until the final judgement we're in the time when the knowlege of God fills the earth. All the first Christians were Jews also.
They had good reasons. He didn't fit the qualifications to be the Messiah.
For a start, the Messiah was supposed to accomplish the following:
1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
2. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
3. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
4. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world ― on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).
Even failing to accomplish one of these, disqualifies him as being the Messiah.
And please, don't give us the standard apologetic, "he's supposed to fulfill these in the 2nd coming". There is no concept of this in the OT. It's supposed to happen in the Messiah's lifetime.
There are quite a few more reasons why he doesn't qualify.
Oh please most knowledgeable one tell us. You want to win an argument by taking away part of the Bible, you really like fair play who taught you this your parents. The nation of Israel is back, exactly how did you miss this one. Th other two are end time prophecies just like a great deal of the Book of Daniel is. I bet now you wish you had included Daniel's book in your restrictions upon the Christian side of the argument.
GC
(February 17, 2014 at 11:46 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I heard his name was supposed to be Emmanuel anyway. Apparently Mary thought Jesus was a better name than Emmanuel.
The angel told Joseph to name Him Jesus, it had nothing to do with Mary's desire. Emmanuel means God with us, it's a prophetic name for Jesus, you guys need to start using the brains you claim to have. I use the word claim with full intent, until you all show us different.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
