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Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
(February 22, 2014 at 10:49 am)catman Wrote: Scientific study and archeological evidence all points to Africa and not the Middle East.

With regards to the Cradle of Civilization (as it has been termed), it encompasses a broad region which is loosely referred to as "the ancient near east", or the "middle east". This region (if you will note, this is the exact term I used in my response) is not limited only to Iraq, or Saudi Arabia as many envision when they hear the term "middle east", but rather, as the Wikipedia article states:

In Western European and Middle Eastern cultures, [the term "Cradle of Civilization"] it has frequently been applied to the Ancient Near Eastern Chalcolithic (Ubaid period, Naqada culture), especially in the Fertile Crescent (Mesopotamia and Levant) and Egypt, but also extended to sites in Asia Minor (Anatolia), Armenia[1] and the Iranian Plateau (Elam)

So as you will see catman, what I have said in no way contradicts the most recent findings of archaeologists. Notice I also referred to the children of the children of the children of Adam and Eve, not Adam and Eve themselves, i.e. the third generation on as having spread out in the region generally referred to as the middle east. This is in no way refuted by your reply. These peoples had to migrate EAST due to the constraints placed on them by the Mediterranean Sea to the WEST.

To conclude, the area in Africa which you have in mind is included in the overall region I referred to as the "middle east".


(February 22, 2014 at 10:49 am)catman Wrote: Actually we do not know that Adam and Eve existed at all. Bible is the only source.

Here catman, your point is not lost on me. However, your point in no way pertains to the question in your OP. We are not discussing whether or not the Bible is a reliable source for the whereabouts of Adam and Eve, but rather why, if the Bible is the inspired word of God, the focal point of the Bible is on a particular people group.

Now if you would like to start a new post on whether or not the Bible is a reliable account of ancient history then I would be delighted to participate!



(February 22, 2014 at 10:49 am)catman Wrote: Amazingly China was populated within a few thousand years.

How is this pertinent?

(February 22, 2014 at 10:49 am)catman Wrote: No he does not. He mentioned nothing about these about the growing populations in these other nations.

The account in Genesis is that the nations of the world were populated by the descendants of Noah's sons. How is this not an account of a growing world population?Undecided


(February 22, 2014 at 10:49 am)catman Wrote: How do you know that?

The "fathers" of the nations were the three sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. They knew God because they were delivered alive through the flood by God's providence and were eyewitnesses of the works of God. Their father, Noah, was referred to as a "righteous" man, and "blameless" in the sight of God, and as one who walked with God. It is not unreasonable to say that his sons knew God therefore. These were as I stated earlier, the "fathers" of the nations.

(February 22, 2014 at 10:49 am)catman Wrote: Even though their religions/mythologies may be older than Judaism?

You are mistaken. For the account I have given you is the account of the very first people to populate the earth after the flood. We are speaking of a time that predates any of the world's religions and or mythologies. At this time the only people that existed on the face of the earth were those who were delivered alive through the flood by God.

And being charitable, even if you deny the flood was global, and maintain it was local, the point remains, if there were indeed other civilizations in existence at this time in other parts of the world, they were still descendants of Adam and Eve. If these civilizations worshipped other gods it was because they, over time, abandoned the One True God and crafted their own to suit their fancy.



(February 22, 2014 at 10:49 am)catman Wrote: You do know that Yahweh was on of many Gods that was originally worshiped by the Jews. He was a JEWISH DEITY. The Jews at the time did not consider him a God for the world. He was a for the Jews only and didn't care about the outside world. That is the real reason why the ancient Chinese or Aztecs never heard of Yahweh. They had their own mythologies.

God revealed Himself to Moses as YHWH. This does not mean that there were two gods, but rather One God who revealed Himself as God Almighty from the time of Adam and Eve up until the time of Moses. The same God that created Adam and Eve was the same God who revealed Himself to Moses on Mt. Sinai. For does not the Shema which encapsulates the monotheistic essence of Judaism read?: "Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one"

The reason the Aztecs or the Chinese never heard of YHWH is because God never revealed Himself to those people by that name, but rather, He revealed Himself to them as God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth.
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Messages In This Thread
Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible? - by catman - February 15, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible? - by Lek - February 17, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible? - by discipulus - February 22, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible? - by Lek - February 21, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible? - by Lek - February 21, 2014 at 11:34 pm

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