(March 24, 2010 at 2:16 am)Godschild Wrote: One man many dead this is a horrible thing the so called official church did.I do not know if that Pope was a christian.Does history record him as saying he was a believer and if so was it recorded by a reliable historian who heard him say he was a believer.
Wow. You "don't know if the Pope was a Christian"? You seriously want to argue that the Pope may not have been a Christian?
Quote:Yes there are first hand accounts,the Four Gospels.

Tavarish did a good job of refuting this claim already, but I'll throw in my two cents.
NO ONE knows who wrote the gospels. Plus, they were written decades after Jesus supposedly died. They are not first hand accounts! Not to mention that this falls into the category of using the Bible to prove the Bible.
Quote:Yes you are correct that Thallus writings were distroyed or lost but when were they lost.Julius Africanus says that Thallus recorded the great darkness in is third volume and Julius Africanus made this statement around 221 AD so Africanus must of had at the very least copies of the Thallus volumes.
So, at best, we have something from a person who lived over 150 years later who may or may not have actually seen something written by Thallus. And if what he saw was a copy? Whose to say that whoever copied Thallus's writings didn't insert their own embellishment? No real historian would hang his hat on this as evidence of anything.
Quote:The scriptures of Budda were not put into writing until after the time of Jesus and Budda's biography wasn't written until the first century AD.Budda supposedly live in the sixth century BC.Bet you know what's next,that's right,I've had several nonbelievers to tell me how Jesus copied from Budda's writtings.Now how can that be when we can not say that Budda was a real person and we do know that Budda's scriptures were written after the Four Gospels.
What does Buddha have to do with any of this? I have not made any claim regarding Buddha and the gospels. Nice try at a red herring.
Quote:Let me ask you this do you really believe that the afore mentioned historians who were and are considered excellent historians would tarnish their reputations on what they would deem hearsay?
I don't know what any of these historians would or would not have done. All I know for sure is that they were not alive at the time Jesus supposedly lived. Therefore, they could not have been eyewitnesses to anything that Jesus supposedly did. Consequently, anything in their writings regarding Jesus is hearsay. And hearsay is weak evidence.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?