Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?

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You are still asking questions which proves my point.

Why ask why?

Are you seriously insinuating that because we would want to do additional investigation rather than just leaping to the preferred answer that you offer, we're somehow displaying proof that we actually just don't want god to exist, and are being unfair?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Requiring additional investigation is called being intellectually honest, because historically, leaping to the easiest conclusion without thinking results in incorrect conclusions. And I know you know this, because all those other religions that stayed with the first conclusion they had, a different god than yours, got it wrong, according to you! Flat earth? First conclusion we had, dead wrong. Oh what, why won't you just accept that the earth is flat, Disc? Why do you keep asking questions? That just proves my point: you're just unfairly biased against the earth being flat!

This is the most intellectually anemic, childish argument, and yet you keep bringing it up. You should be ashamed of yourself: you notice how we're not going around forcefully reinterpreting your motives so that we no longer have to defend our position? At no point has anyone here decided to tell you what you believe, what the fuck gives you the right to do different to us? Grow. Up!

You fail to take into account the background information accompanying the accounts of Christ's miracles.

Christ did not do one miracle and then say believe in Me. He did not do two miracles and say believe in Me. Or three or four.

If I were a Jew living at that time and witnessed what Jesus was doing I could not justify not believing who He said He was.

With each miracle, the probability of it all happening via some naturalisitc explanation diminishes. Assuming the accounts are true it is more probable that the explanation for these occurrances is that Christ was actually who He said He was.

Wanting evidence for claims of divinity is not wrong. It is right. But denying what is obvious is a matter of the will.

Do you agree?

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Were you there to see Jesus raising people from the dead? Then how do you know what he did is what you propose you would do in the present? You don't. You're just begging the question.

I take it for granted that the act of raising someone bodily from the dead would be indisputable evidence for claims of divinity.

It seems to me now that this is not so self-evident.

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I do not know of any unhinged homeless people who have power over nature so as to be able to calm a storm with a word.

Christ came to His own and they did not receive Him despite the many evidences and proofs He provided them.

Being skeptical of claims of divinity is one thing. Refusing to accept the claim in the face of attending evidence and proofs is another. The later is a matter of the will.

If you were among the crowd and saw with your own eyes those things which Christ did as evidence of His claims....what would your response be.

There is no evidence anyone ever did these things. They're just fables with no proof.

It has as much evidence behind it as the Harry Potter series.

I've seen David Copperfield do some really shocking things on TV. I never presumed that his tricks made him the son of God.

David Blaine, would you follow him as your Christ if he claimed what he did was not tricks but powers from his divinity?

David Copperfield to my knowledge has never claimed to be The Son of God. Nor has He ever, to my knowledge caused people who were blind from birth to see. The lame from birth to walk. Or the dead to be raised to life. Nor has He done anything that I am aware of that is the fulfillment of a prophecy written about Him hundreds of years prior to His birth.

The same is true for David Blaine or any other magician.

So why would I believe them if they claimed to be The Son of God?

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And if after seeing Jesus raise a man from the dead you approached Him and asked Him to do it again and He did, then what?

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If you were among the crowd and saw with your own eyes those things which Christ did as evidence of His claims....what would your response be.

If you were among the crowd that witnessed David Copperfield misplace the Statue of Liberty, while claiming it to be magic, would you believe him?

Of course the "do it again" request would lead to investigation of how this ability works and into a possible replication of it through technology!

Would it be proof of the claim?... errr... perhaps...
But we must keep the real world and the fictional world in their proper realms... has anyone ever performed such a raising of people from death?

Has David Copperfield ever actually moved the statue of liberty? No

Even if He were able, he still has not claimed to be God in the flesh.

As I have stated, Christ and David Copperfield have very little in common.

Assuming for the sake of argument Christ did all it is recorded He did, it seems more probable that the best explanation is that He actually was who He said He was as opposed to Him being some sort of magician.

I am aware of no magician who has been tortured and killed because they claimed to be the Son of God and whose mighty deeds had been prophesied years prior to Him being born.