Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?

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If I were a Jew living at that time and witnessed what Jesus was doing I could not justify not believing who He said He was.

With each miracle, the probability of it all happening via some naturalisitc explanation diminishes. Assuming the accounts are true it is more probable that the explanation for these occurrances is that Christ was actually who He said He was.

Wanting evidence for claims of divinity is not wrong. It is right. But denying what is obvious is a matter of the will.

So, all it takes for you to believe a claim of divinity is to see someone appear to do something you personally lack the intelligence or education to understand?

The answer, of course, is 'no'. Your threshold of credulity isn't even that high. You're willing to accept those claims based on extremely sketchy second-hand claims that such things happened thousands of years ago and were recorded nowhere except in a single series of sources of, to say the very least, dubious authenticity.

Ironic how the preponderance of 'miracles' has an inverse relationship with the advancement of communications, observation and recording, isn't it?

As I have stated, Christ and David Copperfield have very little in common.

Absolutely. David Copperfield is a real person.

I do not consider the gospel accounts to be "extremely sketchy second-hand claims."

If you do then that is fine.

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It seems to me that if you are so despairing of the ills that exist in the world, you would not be sitting around waiting for a reason to do something about it.

Your god could solve every problem, ever, instantly, without any effort, but I bet you never say this to him in your prayers.

You are right, I don't.

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You fail to take into account the background information accompanying the accounts of Christ's miracles.

Christ did not do one miracle and then say believe in Me. He did not do two miracles and say believe in Me. Or three or four.

If I were a Jew living at that time and witnessed what Jesus was doing I could not justify not believing who He said He was.

With each miracle, the probability of it all happening via some naturalisitc explanation diminishes. Assuming the accounts are true it is more probable that the explanation for these occurrances is that Christ was actually who He said He was.

Wanting evidence for claims of divinity is not wrong. It is right. But denying what is obvious is a matter of the will.

Do you agree?

How many people did follow him around while he was doing all those things?
Which of those recorded what was witnessed?

Has David Copperfield ever actually moved the statue of liberty? No

Even if He were able, he still has not claimed to be God in the flesh.

As I have stated, Christ and David Copperfield have very little in common.

Assuming for the sake of argument Christ did all it is recorded He did, it seems more probable that the best explanation is that He actually was who He said He was as opposed to Him being some sort of magician.

I am aware of no magician who has been tortured and killed because they claimed to be the Son of God and whose mighty deeds had been prophesied years prior to Him being born.

What if he claimed it to be a god-given power?
And you saw it and thought for sure that the statue had been moved?

Or try the indian levitating by mastering the Hindu way of life?
http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/...42926.html

Matthew, John, and Peter are three that come to mind. John and Peter were two of the inner three. I do not know how many witnessed Him do these things.

If David Copperfield moved the statue of liberty and claimed to do it by a god-given power I would begin looking into his personal life and seeing if he was a righteous man. I would want to know if he conducted himself in a godly manner. I would want to listen to him speak to observe his manner of life. If he appeared to me to be a righteous man and his conduct lined up with that which is to be expected of a godly man, I would pray to God about the situation. If God confirmed that David Copperfield was indeed sent by Him, I would accept that David Copperfield was indeed a holy man of God.

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If you are so concerned about human suffering as you seem to imply you are, why is it that you are waiting for some type of evidence or proof before you become a model Christian?

For what is it to be a model Christian but to be as Christ? One who cared for the sick and poor. One who loved and blessed His enemies and persecutors? One who always put other's needs before His own...

It seems to me that if you are so despairing of the ills that exist in the world, you would not be sitting around waiting for a reason to do something about it.

You essentially are saying: I will follow Christ and imitate His life and be a selfless self sacrificing person IF you prove this or that....

If you were indeed so heartbroken about people having river blindness and other numerous ills, you would not need a proof to persuade you to do something about it.

Now, calmly and with as much decorum as possible take everything you just wrote and shove it so far up your ass it tickles your throat

You are offering miracles in return for belief. I suggested one - one I cannot do, but your God could in the blink of an eye, apparently.

Yet - he doesn't. Why is this? Malaria has nothing to do with sin - its just another sickness that takes millions of people each year.

But you don't care about that - and nor does your God - all you want is to claim another person's freedom.

Jesus cared for the sick and the poor did he? - How many did he help in his lifetime? Don't be giving me that shit about saving souls - how many down here on earth? How much suffering did he actually alleviate during his lifetime? 10? 20? 50?

Pathetic! A loving God could have saved thousands, tens of thousands and more - and for fuck's sakes he owes us huge on that score.

If your aim was to bring me to your form of slavery - you failed.

If it was to introduce me to any single good thing about your religion - you failed.

If it was to make me remember, yet again, just how fucking horrific Christianity is - SUCCESS!!

Nice one! Thanks!

You're welcome.