Ill pretend to be a religious person

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atheist speaking)
Sorry i dont understand your idea of religion... if you have fear or regret or guilt, and believe because of that, how can you not have faith? i mean, believing in God is believing in something without evidence and that is faith isnt it ?

Note what I said here, in response to what you said:

Religion relies on faith, and faith is irrational and illogical. So in this aspect, religion is incompatible with religion.

Religion does not necessarily rely on faith... it could so easily rely on fear, regret, guilt, happiness, insanity, tradition, etc... why would it necessarily rely on faith?

I did not state that faith relied on itself (tautologically true much?)... I stated that religion (that being an organization of people sharing similar faiths) does not necessarily rely on faith. Fear, regret, guilt, happiness, insanity, tradition, etcetera all serve to 'propagate?' religion. That's what I meant by religion does not necessarily rely on faith... though that is not to suggest faith is not a crucial element of it.

Also... belief as far as I am concerned is faith. But it depends on how you are using the word as to wether the above italic is correct or not. But then... if you are using faith as belief... why even bring it up? It's a vital process for the formulation of knowledge... without which knowledge (the assumption that one is correct (that a thing is true, if you will)) could not exist. However, if you are using 'faith' to specifically denote belief void of or notwithstanding evidence... then fear, guilt, and regret all serve as justifications for the belief (and therefore evidence, though not necessarily good evidence)... and therefore by your definition cannot be 'true?' faith.

Again... everything is dependent on how you are defining faith. I agree with tacky's statement above ("believing in something without evidence is blind faith")... it is specifically belief for no reason whatsoever... not even a belief because it 'feels right'. So again, what precisely do you mean by "faith"? Further... does your definition of faith actually apply to the circumstances you are attributing it to? (eg: I could define faith as a 'purple monkey'... but that hardly applies to a Christian's belief in a loving God. )