World's Oldest Christian Church discovered in Jordan!!

[Kyuuketsuki]

No it doesn't, it potentially infers that there was a thing (possibly a person) called Christ that they worshipped, it does not prove that person exists (or whether it was physical or spiritual) any more than people worshipping god proves that god exists.

Jesus was not there physically. They were worshipping him in spirit. He was already executed by the Romans.

There is no suggestion (no validatable evidence) that he was EVER physical!!!! Pay Attention!

I don't give a damn ... prove this man was a Muslim.

Research him for yourself. Dr Abdul Qader Al-Hassan

It's YOUR claim, you do the #&%@ research!!!!

Gee, I wonder why you're avoiding the question ... prove Hassan was a Muslim.

He is a Muslim. Research him Dr Abdul Qader Al-Hassan

See above!

No, YOU are the one making the EXTRAORDINARYclaim, it is up to YOU to prove it. Atheists are not all (en masse) claiming what you said, if anything they seem to be shifting towards the idea that your Christ didn't exist at all.

No, I said the archaealogists have evidence.[/quote]

Archaeologists have evidence that atheists are becoming more convinced that Jesus was real? Shit man ... those archaeologists are something aren't they?

The cave is evidence certainly however it has yet to be demonstrated that it supports your claims. I tentatively accept it demonstrates Christian worship at the time the cave was in use ... you have yet to demonstrate that Hassan is a Muslim (a key part of your argument as it reflects on a possible pro-Christian agenda), that the cave is as old as Hassan claims and that the "worshippers" (if any) were literally worshipping a physical Christ (it remains a possibility that they were Gnostics, Gnostics apparently believed Christ was a spiritual rather than physical being).

Nobody has claimed "Jesus was in this cave."

I never said he was! Pay Attention!

I don't give a damn ... prove this man was a Muslim.

I've told you to research it.

See above!

You "heard it in another forum"??? What the #@&% do you think evidence is? If you "heard it another forum" it is not unreasonable to NOT treat this claim as evidence, at best it is hearsay. I don't care what you think it means; you're biased ... I care about the facts.

Show me where I said it was evidence?

Your words, "The evidence has been exposed" & "People, it's a proven fact that a man called, 'the Christ' existed in the first century."

No, your OPINION has been exposed. Unsupported opinion (especially form one with so obvious an agenda) is not now and never will be considered evidence.

It's not my opinion. You might want to talk to Dr. Al-Hassan.

Not in the slightest bit interested in talking to him certainly not until you provide some evidence to back up your claim.

Like I give a damn!

No one says you have to.

Well there, at least, is one thing we can agree on.

Kyu