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Health Care bill passed
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RE: Health Care bill passed
(March 27, 2010 at 5:00 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Capitalism doesn't attempt to change people, or force changes on people. It is a naturalistic model of how we think and what we expect (work -> reward). There is no direct line leading from capitalism to "oppression and death". There is a direct line leading from socialism and communism to oppression and death.

People don't like the be changed. Socialism and communism work by oppressing people and taking what they earn, and when people complain, they get killed by the "collective" for not going along with what is "best" for society. Capitalism gives to people what they deserve based on what they do and what they contribute to society.

Where is the direct line from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

to oppression and death?

Nowhere thats where.

Socialism is about society taking responsibilty for others within the society.

It has been missappropraited in the past thats true, but the concept itself is the anti thesis of repression.

Russia replaced one tzar one by another name, they chose the idea of socialism to gain power but didnt actualy install a properly socialist system, ditto in china and the khymer rouge were about as socialist as the scientologists are christian.

I personnally favour a mix of socialism and capiatlism.

Socialism for the basics Health, policing,gas, electric, water, sewage, bus and rail services etc and capitalism for less vital stuff.

I know this goes against the Gordeon Gekko 'greed is good' mantra that underpins capitalism, which probably does work in big cities but out here in the sticks it strands old people with bus passes because their bus bus route is 'uneconomic' despite being full of pensioners every day.

Capitalism is about money socialism is about people.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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Health Care bill passed - by Archbow - March 22, 2010 at 12:45 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by leo-rcc - March 22, 2010 at 11:00 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by binny - March 22, 2010 at 11:09 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by fr0d0 - March 22, 2010 at 3:42 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by downbeatplumb - March 22, 2010 at 2:23 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by tavarish - March 22, 2010 at 3:47 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - March 22, 2010 at 3:50 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Violet - March 22, 2010 at 4:51 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Rev. Rye - March 22, 2010 at 7:12 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by objectivitees - March 22, 2010 at 4:01 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by fr0d0 - March 22, 2010 at 4:04 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by chatpilot - March 24, 2010 at 8:04 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Eilonnwy - March 24, 2010 at 9:37 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - March 24, 2010 at 2:43 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by fr0d0 - March 24, 2010 at 5:15 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Minimalist - March 24, 2010 at 6:33 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Minimalist - March 24, 2010 at 11:39 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by chatpilot - March 24, 2010 at 11:54 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Dotard - March 24, 2010 at 5:43 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Minimalist - March 24, 2010 at 12:17 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by binny - March 24, 2010 at 1:24 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Rev. Rye - March 24, 2010 at 7:54 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by chatpilot - March 24, 2010 at 1:44 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Minimalist - March 24, 2010 at 4:50 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Violet - March 24, 2010 at 3:08 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - March 24, 2010 at 3:09 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by downbeatplumb - March 27, 2010 at 10:16 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Rev. Rye - March 27, 2010 at 2:38 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Violet - March 27, 2010 at 8:08 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Rev. Rye - March 28, 2010 at 12:02 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - March 27, 2010 at 2:41 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by fr0d0 - March 27, 2010 at 4:00 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by A Theist - March 27, 2010 at 6:37 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by fr0d0 - March 27, 2010 at 7:33 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - March 27, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by padraic - April 2, 2010 at 6:47 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by downbeatplumb - April 3, 2010 at 10:33 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by fr0d0 - March 27, 2010 at 4:54 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - March 27, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by downbeatplumb - March 28, 2010 at 7:08 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - March 28, 2010 at 9:54 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Dotard - March 28, 2010 at 12:54 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - March 28, 2010 at 1:20 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Meatball - March 29, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Zhalentine - March 29, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Violet - March 29, 2010 at 5:59 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - March 29, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Violet - March 30, 2010 at 6:49 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Autumnlicious - April 2, 2010 at 12:01 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by fr0d0 - March 27, 2010 at 5:11 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by LEDO - March 28, 2010 at 10:06 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by A Theist - March 28, 2010 at 12:25 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by fr0d0 - March 28, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Autumnlicious - March 29, 2010 at 5:19 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - March 29, 2010 at 5:55 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - April 2, 2010 at 12:05 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - April 3, 2010 at 12:07 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Dotard - April 4, 2010 at 11:22 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - April 4, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by downbeatplumb - April 6, 2010 at 2:47 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Tiberius - April 6, 2010 at 6:50 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Dotard - April 6, 2010 at 11:18 pm
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Edwardo Piet - April 7, 2010 at 10:58 am
RE: Health Care bill passed - by Autumnlicious - April 7, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RE: Healthcare=Passed - by theblindferrengi - March 22, 2010 at 12:51 am
RE: Healthcare=Passed - by Tiberius - March 22, 2010 at 6:25 am
RE: Healthcare=Passed - by Eilonnwy - March 23, 2010 at 11:10 am
RE: Healthcare=Passed - by Rev. Rye - March 22, 2010 at 9:11 am
RE: Healthcare=Passed - by Minimalist - March 22, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Health Care Reform has passed - by Eilonnwy - March 22, 2010 at 9:36 am

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