(March 4, 2014 at 2:40 am)snowtracks Wrote: pride took over: "But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north. 14'I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'The question remains-- what do Satan and the demons know about god that they would take such a course?
and it plays out even though he knows what is written as to the ending. pride continues - - - he believes he has an ace up his sleeve and he will rewrite the ending...."pride comes before a fall".
Maybe they are taking a principled stance against a being who would create them with the ability to manifest pride. Maybe god did that on purpose, for his own amusement? Perhaps god really is so insecure that he needs that occasional pat on the back, so he engineers a situation where he gets to play the hero and people are awestruck at how cool he is. It would explain a lot of things. The fall of man and the intricate plan to redeem mankind that could have been made completely unnecessary with three words, for example.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould