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To Agnostics, question for you
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RE: To Agnostics, question for you
(March 15, 2014 at 9:08 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(March 15, 2014 at 8:59 pm)jesus_wept Wrote: If you have no beliefs regarding god you're obviously an atheist. You might like to call yourself agnostic but the truth is you're an atheist in denial.

Absolutely. But in the quote you cited I specifically stated the question as what it is you believe about gods - not whether or not you believe in them. I do call myself an atheist because I have no beliefs in gods. My point here is that an agnostic atheist who is not much interested in the god phenomenon might reasonably answer the question I posed by stating they are agnostic. It would be synonymous with saying you know nothing of gods and therefore can't tell you what they might be. (To be clear, that wouldn't be my answer, but it might explain Tyson's.)

I think we may have got our wires crossed because I'm talking about people who call themselves "agnostic", not people who call themselves agnostic atheists.

(March 15, 2014 at 9:09 pm)whateverist Wrote: Or perhaps I misunderstand you. Do you actually think that an atheist would necessarily hold the belief that gods do not exist? (If so you are mistaken.)

Is this directed at me? If so I would define a theist as someone who believes in a personal god, as opposed to the impersonal god of the deists or pantheists, and an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in god/gods.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "an atheist would necessarily hold the belief that gods do not exist" tbh. I think it's possible some god or other might exist but I dont see any reason to believe in them. It's possible fairies exist too but I dont believe in them either.
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To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 13, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Jackalope - March 14, 2014 at 1:33 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by fr0d0 - March 14, 2014 at 1:53 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by MysticKnight - March 14, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2014 at 1:39 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bob Kelso - March 15, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2014 at 6:02 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Napoléon - March 14, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 14, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Napoléon - March 14, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by heathendegenerate - March 14, 2014 at 10:23 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 15, 2014 at 2:02 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Rahul - March 14, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Napoléon - March 14, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Rahul - March 14, 2014 at 10:20 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Napoléon - March 14, 2014 at 10:25 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Rahul - March 14, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by heathendegenerate - March 14, 2014 at 11:04 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Tonus - March 14, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 10:08 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Tonus - March 15, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bad Writer - March 14, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Simon Moon - March 14, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Rahul - March 14, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bob Kelso - March 14, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 9:20 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 16, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bob Kelso - March 14, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bad Writer - March 14, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bob Kelso - March 14, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 15, 2014 at 5:53 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by OGirly - March 15, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Alex K - March 15, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by OGirly - March 15, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Alex K - March 15, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 15, 2014 at 11:55 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 15, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Alex K - March 15, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Napoléon - March 15, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 15, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 15, 2014 at 9:20 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 11:52 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 16, 2014 at 6:55 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 15, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 15, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Mr. Moncrieff - March 15, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 15, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by tor - March 15, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by petrichorpeace - March 15, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 15, 2014 at 10:08 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by fr0d0 - March 16, 2014 at 1:02 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Tonus - March 16, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 16, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 16, 2014 at 9:57 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Severan - March 16, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 16, 2014 at 11:01 am
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