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Informing people there is no god.
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RE: Informing people there is no god.
(March 19, 2014 at 7:45 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 7:09 pm)tor Wrote: I'm not trying to prove that something which is unprovable is provable.
What I am saying is that you should not believe that something exists if it is indistinguishable from something that does not exist(which means that you had no contact with it personally and have no evidence to back it up).

You're not trying to prove it you're demanding illogical evidence.

Again, what kind of proof would you accept?

To elaborate a bit on what Tor is saying, here are the options when it comes to the existence of a god:

1. A god exists and it manifests in reality.
2. A god exists but it does not manifest in reality.
3. A god does not exist.

God number 1 exists and it manifests in reality. If it does, in theory, its interactions with reality are testable.

God number 2 exists but does not manifest in reality.

If the god you believe in is number 2, how is it distinguishable from god number 3?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Nine - March 19, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by The Valkyrie - March 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2014 at 4:40 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Silver - March 21, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 21, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by *Deidre* - March 19, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by *Deidre* - March 19, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by truthBtold - March 19, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Tonus - March 20, 2014 at 4:33 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by *Deidre* - March 19, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 5:12 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2014 at 5:19 pm
Informing people there is no god. - by Rampant.A.I. - March 19, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by FreeTony - March 19, 2014 at 5:16 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 5:23 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Bittersmart - March 19, 2014 at 6:08 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Bittersmart - March 19, 2014 at 6:17 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 6:18 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2014 at 6:25 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 6:26 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by The Valkyrie - March 19, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 7:09 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Simon Moon - March 19, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 2:52 am
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 5:56 am
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Simon Moon - March 19, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Jacob(smooth) - March 19, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 6:45 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Rahul - March 19, 2014 at 6:49 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 19, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Rabb Allah - March 19, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Chas - March 20, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by KichigaiNeko - March 20, 2014 at 6:14 am
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by thesummerqueen - March 20, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 4:40 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 4:44 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by thesummerqueen - March 20, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 4:23 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by thesummerqueen - March 20, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by thesummerqueen - March 20, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by thesummerqueen - March 20, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by thesummerqueen - March 20, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by thesummerqueen - March 20, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 5:08 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by GirlyMan - March 20, 2014 at 4:53 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 5:12 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 5:19 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 5:19 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by John V - March 20, 2014 at 5:21 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 5:22 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 5:24 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 5:25 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by GirlyMan - March 20, 2014 at 5:53 pm
Informing people there is no god. - by Rampant.A.I. - March 20, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 5:36 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 5:52 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 6:06 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Chas - March 20, 2014 at 9:37 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 6:20 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 6:31 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Rahul - March 20, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Tonus - March 20, 2014 at 6:43 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 6:24 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Rahul - March 20, 2014 at 6:28 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 6:32 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 6:35 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 6:37 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 6:37 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 6:43 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 6:46 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 6:47 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 7:19 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Chas - March 20, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Chas - March 20, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 9:48 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 8:08 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Rabb Allah - March 20, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Rabb Allah - March 20, 2014 at 8:46 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 8:47 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Rabb Allah - March 20, 2014 at 8:48 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Rabb Allah - March 20, 2014 at 8:53 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 8:54 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Chas - March 20, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 8:46 pm
Informing people there is no god. - by Rampant.A.I. - March 20, 2014 at 9:00 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 9:16 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 9:19 pm
Informing people there is no god. - by Rampant.A.I. - March 20, 2014 at 9:18 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 9:31 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by Chas - March 20, 2014 at 9:43 pm
Informing people there is no god. - by Rampant.A.I. - March 20, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 9:37 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 9:43 pm
Informing people there is no god. - by Rampant.A.I. - March 20, 2014 at 9:40 pm
Informing people there is no god. - by Rampant.A.I. - March 20, 2014 at 9:44 pm
Informing people there is no god. - by Rampant.A.I. - March 20, 2014 at 9:49 pm
RE: Informing people there is no god. - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 9:53 pm

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