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April 8, 2010 at 1:50 pm (This post was last modified: April 8, 2010 at 1:59 pm by fr0d0.)
(April 8, 2010 at 11:54 am)Disinter Wrote: a friend of mine told me that her mom adopting her is proof of god's existence....
(April 8, 2010 at 10:49 am)tavarish Wrote: What is your definition of God?
You're not fukkin interested so why ask!
my opinion:
God is an entity realised slowly throughout human history that has evolved through primitive conceptualisation to the finely honed ideas we enjoy now. The idea of a deity didn't come first it seems, but a grasp of this aspect of humanity.
I have in my mind at the moment that quote of a Rabbi a guy in another thread made. "To define God is immediately to limit him". Which I think is a classic faith statement. I like the definitions in the summa, and I'd reiterate those. I also like the Via Negative arguments (defining God from what we can know he is not).
I like the first cause argument. I certainly accept that God 'is' - a timeless entity. He's all powerful, all knowing, three personalities in a single entity (I don't think non trinitarians are Christians), in everything (as he created it), and perfectly loving
Just so's you know I'm a protestant Christian who agrees with the theory of evolution and detests fundamentalists. I grew up default atheist and then considered atheist. My family aren't religious at all. I converted to Christianity in my late 20's and married a Christian as a believer. I was then an atheist for about 17 years before converting again after discussing religion with atheists on a forum.
(April 8, 2010 at 10:49 am)tavarish Wrote: What convinced you that God exists?
His 'existence' was never a question of importance, belief in him was. Belief in him leads to faith that he 'exists' if you like, but how could anyone be logically 'convinced' of his existence? The question is intellectually absurd.
(April 8, 2010 at 10:49 am)tavarish Wrote: You can describe a specific event, revelation, or series of events that led you to your belief.
No. You're poisoning the well trying to pin conversion on supernatural phenomena rather than what you know it really is, the trust and acceptance of information you trust. Or is your memory really that bad?
