Theists - what convinced you?

[The Piper]

It's not logical because you still haven't demonstrated why it necessarily had to have been designed, and a definition of the designer. You're not backing up your claims with anything.

I never said it had to be designed. I just believe it is, based on my own observations and the observations of others.

I'm getting tired of this.

Observations like WHAT? Can you provide details for ANYTHING?

Due to this belief I have come to the conclusion that the Universe and everything in it is not eternal, but it's creator is.
If I believed that the universe and everything in it was not designed, then I could come to the conclusion that the creation could be eternal and therefore have no creator.

Comprehend?

You've just reiterated the statement.

I'm noticing an obvious pattern in your posts.

"I believe this because I believe it. If I didn't, I wouldn't hold this belief."

...yeah.

I have not bothered going into details of the observations of evidence for design, because I am assuming as an atheist you would have already checked them out? So you can try and refute them? Google is the answer.

There is also a pattern in your posts. Circle work is awesome.