(March 28, 2014 at 1:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: My point was, as it relates to the creation of the universe your going to have to acknowledge that a supernatural (unexplained scientifically) event took place. If you can in fact explain it scientifically, i'm all ears.
Well, hold on now: a supernatural event would generally entail an actual claim as to what happened, no? Science stops at the edge of its knowledge and just states that we don't know yet, whereas religious folk are claiming an actual supernatural event happened.
If you want to use a definition of supernatural that is just "unexplained scientifically," then fine, but we're certainly not obligated to grant any of your corollaries about atheists believing in the supernatural the same as religious folks do, or anything like that, because now all you've done is widened the scope of the definition to include rationally justified supernatural events, and irrational ones that are generally held by the religious.
It's an equivocation, what you're trying to do here, and what you'll find is that a lot of us aren't just going to let you expand what a word means without equally expanding the connotations of the word to fit.
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